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Old 03-02-2013, 03:19 PM
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Alright I have some questions for you guys about propshaft height. I've read alot of the older pages on stuff but I just wanted my situation out there so I can get some current feedback.

My new setup is a 468 efi (originally a 454 mag efi motor) it's a 95 motor and had the flat tappet cam (I believe it was the only year that they ran them it is a v belt setup for what it's worth) well it wiped the cam so I converted it to a roller motor, went .060 over on it nice heads I don't have the spec sheet right infront of me) anyways tuned it its 525 hp... B1 with 1.5 gears... The motor is stock x dim... I just came across a smoking deal on a -2 imco lower that I picked up... Now I haven't ran this setup at all.

What's the -2 going to do for me? And what about propping? Where do I even want to start? 3 blade? 4 blade? 24p? Motors rev limiter is 5400. I've read people go 4 blade with the shorty lowers others run 3. Ultimately I'd like to be able to cruise faster ride better which I think ill achieve with the -2.

Ultimately I want to know what I'll expect with this compared to the boat with the stock x dim. For what it's worth last season the boat had a 330 genIV 7.4. And stock height b1.

Thanks for any imput. I think I've given the details to atleast get me started. Getting the itch to get it all together.

Oh and I have a full dual ram hydraulic steering going on too. Lots of work to do!!
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I had a 95 24 Outlaw. Bone stock with 365 hp I ran a 21" 3 blade to 61 mph. Supercharged the stock motor, guess at 525 hp. I then ran a 26" 4 blade Bravo 1 prop to 76 mph.

I did meet a guy once who had a 240 sport and a 1 or 2 inch shortie with 600 hp and he was running low to mid 80's.

I think you will be fine the the 2" shortie. Def go with a 26" 4 blade to start and see what happens. May need to go to a 28". You may also encounter longer than normal planing time, but it should be fine once it is up and out.

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Thanks smitty, I wasn't sure if a 3 or 4 blade was going to be in order with the height change, does raising the prop shaft height affect bow lift being that the prop is closer to the surface? I know to get the speed out of them you have to get the bow out of the water.

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Any prop can be set up to give you bow lift. I had plenty with that stock Bravo 1 prop
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I have a 240 with the x raised 3.5 inches. I have a 502 with about 430 horse. I run a 26 bravo 1. I also have the largest k-plane that eddie marine makes, I ran the boat for a year with no k-planes at all. I didnt have really any problem getting on plane without planes. My boat runs 70 gps at 5100 rpm, and cruises about 45-47 mph at about 3100-3200 rpm. I dont think you will be able to turn more then a 26 pitch, I would start with a 24 pitch, it will probably give you more of the all around that you need.
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Thanks for the input stilliberator, I have a set of 28" k planes I just bought as well for the boat. Parts keep piling up lol. Is your best ever speed 70 or is that a number you can hit with some frequency?
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I have a 240 with the x raised 3.5 inches. I have a 502 with about 430 horse. I run a 26 bravo 1. I also have the largest k-plane that eddie marine makes, I ran the boat for a year with no k-planes at all. I didnt have really any problem getting on plane without planes. My boat runs 70 gps at 5100 rpm, and cruises about 45-47 mph at about 3100-3200 rpm. I dont think you will be able to turn more then a 26 pitch, I would start with a 24 pitch, it will probably give you more of the all around that you need.
X2 on the bravo prop my 24 is 4 inch raised x-dimension and a two inch shorty with extension box. I was running a 30 pitch labbed bravo it gave mine some porpise at cruising speed but not to bad. I swithced to a 5 blade 32 and it runs alot more flat.
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Now correct me if I'm wrong but some of the added bonus to having a shorty lower (or rasing the x dim and retaining the stock lower) is less drag and as well being able to gain speed without having to trim as much so when/if its rough it will fly straighter and not shoot the bow in the sky. Now with that as badattitude said is this going to be more prone to porpoise-ing while running in flat calm water with a higher x?
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Mine with the -2" had a very slight porpoise when flat calm, about 610-630hp 26" bravo 1 prop about 78 mph. @ 5600 rpm
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Originally Posted by Smitty
I had a 95 24 Outlaw. Bone stock with 365 hp I ran a 21" 3 blade to 61 mph. Supercharged the stock motor, guess at 525 hp. I then ran a 26" 4 blade Bravo 1 prop to 76 mph.

I did meet a guy once who had a 240 sport and a 1 or 2 inch shortie with 600 hp and he was running low to mid 80's.

I think you will be fine the the 2" shortie. Def go with a 26" 4 blade to start and see what happens. May need to go to a 28". You may also encounter longer than normal planing time, but it should be fine once it is up and out.

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I have not changed my propshaft height from factory or instaled a shorite. But planing with power with no tabs or anything was nuts with a highr pitch prop... I installed 280s and lay them down. They are amazing. I assume they may be hard on my transom but oh well. They are called "k-planes"
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