Sunkin Ejection Stories
05-26-2010, 12:14 PM
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Since I have spent the time to read some of these threads, I am going to throw in my 2 cents. FYI I know none of these people personally, and have no dog in this fight either way, but I am a paying member of both sites so here is my opinion.
1. It is pretty obvious that CS has exaggerated his ownership of boats and other high profile toys, this would be easy for him to prove if he really owned them all. No one who owns such toys DOESNT have pictures of them and themselves using them they could show in proof. Also the fact that no one has seen him in his own boat throws up flags. If this is the case, his GODLIKE advice passed on to others on these sites is either baseless, or he is a smart guy who can use the internet to answer questions. If so, he should represent himself that way. Just be "a guy who loves boats and the boating scene who keeps up on info and is trying to achieve the dream". I could respect that.
2. The theft issue, there is a lot of fuzzy stuff there, thats obvious. No one bounces checks repeatedly without knowing it. All banks call and send notices. There should be recipts for any charity donation. Did he get caught with his hands in the cookie jar, probably but it is hard to prove intent. Add in the other cash deal you talked about and the dishonesty about #1 and you have a shady looking situation in my book.
3. You guys who are involved and trying to sound the alarm-You need to remember that to most of us these names and situations are all characters on a screen. I realize that if you had time/energy invested in a project and were screwed you would be angry, thats normal, but if you are going to accuse someone you need to do it factually and openly. Browbeating anyone who asks questions is not good, you are trying to air it out so be ready to answer questions. I dont want to be involved with scammers, as most people dont, but you HAVE to prove the scam. Most of us who follow are big boys/girls and can make good decisions with good info.
IMHO there is an issue, although I believe in innocent till proven guilty, there has been little evidence presented to back CS's side. If he wanted to save his rep he would have done it by now. I think unless there is anything new to show everyone this has become a mud slinging match. It sucks for you guys that put in the time, and I did like both sites for different reasons. SOS has become a ghost town anyway now, so I have moved mostly over here, as have most judging by the use. I will probably still check my few threads over there but when they are dead, thats it.
1. It is pretty obvious that CS has exaggerated his ownership of boats and other high profile toys, this would be easy for him to prove if he really owned them all. No one who owns such toys DOESNT have pictures of them and themselves using them they could show in proof. Also the fact that no one has seen him in his own boat throws up flags. If this is the case, his GODLIKE advice passed on to others on these sites is either baseless, or he is a smart guy who can use the internet to answer questions. If so, he should represent himself that way. Just be "a guy who loves boats and the boating scene who keeps up on info and is trying to achieve the dream". I could respect that.
2. The theft issue, there is a lot of fuzzy stuff there, thats obvious. No one bounces checks repeatedly without knowing it. All banks call and send notices. There should be recipts for any charity donation. Did he get caught with his hands in the cookie jar, probably but it is hard to prove intent. Add in the other cash deal you talked about and the dishonesty about #1 and you have a shady looking situation in my book.
3. You guys who are involved and trying to sound the alarm-You need to remember that to most of us these names and situations are all characters on a screen. I realize that if you had time/energy invested in a project and were screwed you would be angry, thats normal, but if you are going to accuse someone you need to do it factually and openly. Browbeating anyone who asks questions is not good, you are trying to air it out so be ready to answer questions. I dont want to be involved with scammers, as most people dont, but you HAVE to prove the scam. Most of us who follow are big boys/girls and can make good decisions with good info.
IMHO there is an issue, although I believe in innocent till proven guilty, there has been little evidence presented to back CS's side. If he wanted to save his rep he would have done it by now. I think unless there is anything new to show everyone this has become a mud slinging match. It sucks for you guys that put in the time, and I did like both sites for different reasons. SOS has become a ghost town anyway now, so I have moved mostly over here, as have most judging by the use. I will probably still check my few threads over there but when they are dead, thats it.
05-26-2010, 12:23 PM
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You need to get my phucking name out of this little war you have going on.....I did what any of the rest of you could have.........After I was tired of the barage of calls about the Apache I called Bullock he was at Desert Storm he told me what he did and thats that....Now spin me right out of this BS
You're not "spun" into this so we can't spin you out!See ya when you come out here.
05-26-2010, 12:23 PM
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05-26-2010, 12:41 PM
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I'm with him!
05-26-2010, 01:30 PM
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I can speak from personal experience but the banks are supposed to 'charge off' any account thats negative for more than 30 days. Like I said before I logged out of sos and will never return and will never associate with such a person. I hate to even hear such a guy succeed 'if sos does' Theres too many honest people in the world that really want to do good that just dont get the chance. The guy pocketed CASH from a fundraiser for heavens sake and has obviously had a motive from day one with all his lies... he created sos.
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05-26-2010, 02:25 PM
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NO! he didn't and some how that question still hasn't been completely answered about who did.
He says he put up a very large sum of money for software and servers but that has been proven wrong.
It was built by a core group of us that made the mistake of believe'n in the B.S. and we all put hours and hours in there only to find out we had been scammed.
Don't believe it when someone says HE created it he DIDN'T...
05-26-2010, 05:27 PM
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Really? A fifth grade level?
Obviously there is still plenty to say. When this thread started.....no one had yet thought about or considered the SOS events where charity money was collected and what happened to it. That came out here on this thread. I just shook my head when it was posted here that the bar was giving change back with the same bills that marked had been marked for the charity. Good grief. What will be next? I would have to say.....there is more to come. So....it's not a witch hunt, its a con man being exposed. Just like every thread on OSO.....it you don't like it.....then don't look!
