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Old 06-09-2010, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MacGyver
I may be wrong, but I thought Offshoredrillin just changed it...after CS left. Please don't bash the good people (and yes, there are some) at Serious, just for being on Serious.
Hi Mac, yes I did just change it , as I have stated numerous times, individually as people I harbor no ill will towards any one member (however 2 of them can rot in hell) of serious, but after the release of the last announcement here are a few facts.
first off Serious is owned by a for profit company called Grindstone, the visible part of the site is announced as being owned by sunkin and now he is stepping down and turning a site over to someone else, well he never owned it to begin with. more lies and fake frontage.
Secondly a for profit company is exactly that "for Profit", this was never about it being for boaters by boaters, in the end someone was going to get paid. For Steczs benefit, he and I always agreed it should be for profit and run like a business, which it wasn't and the ensuing thievery and lies continued.
Thirdly, I know deep in the recesses of my anus, that Sunkin will never be gone from that site, he will carry on his crap with pm's emails and phone calls, the transparency that is being shown now is all smoke and mirrors. When I refer to serious it is strictly about the site, not one person.
As in ocean city when I sat down with people on a one to one basis, I will laugh and buy drinks and food, but I will not support that site in one iota, and I will not use any advertiser that gives that site money, the same as i would use no company that uses illegal workers. I will never fault you for having a different like or dislike than me. I will just not share in it.

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Old 06-09-2010, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LaughingCat
It is known that most medical liability cases would never see the inside of a courtroom if the doctor simply admitted fault and apologized. Most families are not so interested in monetary compensation as they are emotional compensation that the doctor is sorry and remorseful.

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A little off track but this should be clarified

The reason most do not see the courtroom door is because of one word "SETTLEMENT" Most people do not care about principle (that only happens in small claims) they want money and it is often not about the amount sued for, but the amount settled for. If they were suing on principle when somone said "sorry" it would be over but then they want MONEY for pain and suffering and a bunch of other stuff

It is most often about THE MONEY

If the doctor admits guilt it is just a bigger settlement

We now return to your regularly schedualed Sunkin (or is it sinking) thread

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
Hi Mac, yes I did just change it , as I have stated numerous times, individually as people I harbor no ill will towards any one member (however 2 of them can rot in hell) of serious, but after the release of the last announcement here are a few facts.
first off Serious is owned by a for profit company called Grindstone, the visible part of the site is announced as being owned by sunkin and now he is stepping down and turning a site over to someone else, well he never owned it to begin with. more lies and fake frontage.
Secondly a for profit company is exactly that "for Profit", this was never about it being for boaters by boaters, in the end someone was going to get paid. For Steczs benefit, he and I always agreed it should be for profit and run like a business, which it wasn't and the ensuing thievery and lies continued.
Thirdly, I know deep in the recesses of my anus, that Sunkin will never be gone from that site, he will carry on his crap with pm's emails and phone calls, the transparency that is being shown now is all smoke and mirrors. When I refer to serious it is strictly about the site, not one person.
As in ocean city when I sat down with people on a one to one basis, I will laugh and buy drinks and food, but I will not support that site in one iota, and I will not use any advertiser that gives that site money, the same as i would use no company that uses illegal workers. I will never fault you for having a different like or dislike than me. I will just not share in it.

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What exactly is this Grindstone that you keep reffering to? Is it a hosting company? Post a link to it.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by THRILLSEEKER
What exactly is this Grindstone that you keep reffering to? Is it a hosting company? Post a link to it.
Grindstone is a company owned by Bootdaddy.... I dont have the link anymore, but if you went to whois.com and searched the registry of the site, it showed grindstone. now if you search it, it shows a proxy company...more cover up and lies...guess it's all about the boating huh? why hide it?

it also showed that grindstone was a shell company that never paid their corp charter and yearly dues to be a legitimate business....go figure.
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
Grindstone is a company owned by Bootdaddy.... I dont have the link anymore, but if you went to whois.com and searched the registry of the site, it showed grindstone. now if you search it, it shows a proxy company...more cover up and lies...guess it's all about the boating huh? why hide it?

it also showed that grindstone was a shell company that never paid their corp charter and yearly dues to be a legitimate business....go figure.
Be aware, that all the names and lies and BS aside, lots of sites are using proxys for their whois now, to stop spam emails etc etc. Even OSO is shown through a Proxy.

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Originally Posted by Zone 5
Be aware, that all the names and lies and BS aside, lots of sites are using proxys for their whois now, to stop spam emails etc etc. Even OSO is shown through a Proxy.

Administrative Contact:
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Yup. One other thing to consider, if Grindstone is a hosting/web design service the domain could have been secured by the hosting service itself. For example my site uses E-webtricity. When I first started I didnt have a clue about how any of the details worked so I paid eweb to secure the domain name, take the site live and handle the hosting. For the first year if you would have searched my domain name it would have showed Eweb as the owner of the domain along with a Fl adress for the hosting service.
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Originally Posted by THRILLSEEKER
Yup. One other thing to consider, if Grindstone is a hosting/web design service the domain could have been secured by the hosting service itself. For example my site uses E-webtricity. When I first started I didnt have a clue about how any of the details worked so I paid eweb to secure the domain name, take the site live and handle the hosting. For the first year if you would have searched my domain name it would have showed Eweb as the owner of the domain along with a Fl adress for the hosting service.

Grindstone is just a shell corp owned by Patrick.

Patrick has been paying Rackspace acct since day 1 which is admirable. He also funded start up costs which again is very admirable.

Similarly , you along with many other volunteers aided the venture with hours of work.

The mods put in more time, the admins put in untold hours.

This is why I am so pisssed off.

Despite all that , Chris disrespected everyone mentioned above and let it get wrecked.

But to answer the main question, Grindstone IS NOT a web hosting company.
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Originally Posted by boatme
A little off track but this should be clarified

The reason most do not see the courtroom door is because of one word "SETTLEMENT" Most people do not care about principle (that only happens in small claims) they want money and it is often not about the amount sued for, but the amount settled for. If they were suing on principle when somone said "sorry" it would be over but then they want MONEY for pain and suffering and a bunch of other stuff

It is most often about THE MONEY

If the doctor admits guilt it is just a bigger settlement

We now return to your regularly schedualed Sunkin (or is it sinking) thread

Point taken. But some number of the claims would go away if the doctor apologized. Of course, their attorneys wouldn't allow it. Why make it go away, there's not money in that either. But certainly there are plenty who would use the admission as additional ammunition.
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Ownership change mustnt have happened yet.
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Originally Posted by THRILLSEEKER
Yup. One other thing to consider, if Grindstone is a hosting/web design service the domain could have been secured by the hosting service itself. For example my site uses E-webtricity. When I first started I didnt have a clue about how any of the details worked so I paid eweb to secure the domain name, take the site live and handle the hosting. For the first year if you would have searched my domain name it would have showed Eweb as the owner of the domain along with a Fl adress for the hosting service.
I'm aware of proxys I own two sites myself...As Alec said Grindstone is not a proxy company... here it is just to show that I'm not the one lieing...again
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