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03-05-2014, 09:43 AM
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From my understanding the 2 rockers that broke were replaced by the previous owner. The $11K is to fix the current issue that the new owner is having.
What is exactly wrong with the motor now for the $11K bill? Did the motor ever fire for the buyer?
What is exactly wrong with the motor now for the $11K bill? Did the motor ever fire for the buyer?
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03-05-2014, 10:01 AM
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The one/two rockers that broke when I owned it were in the PORT motor after the first full rebuild I paid for and were warranted by the manufacturer/builder. The BUYER says that two rockers were broke in the STBD motor. BTW....I also had the valve lash adjusted late season prior to the sale as well and of course, at that time, there were no issues.
03-05-2014, 10:06 AM
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Sometimes the deal is too good to be true from both ends. Seller is excited to move boat. Buyer is getting a good enough deal to purchase sight unseen.
Seller needs to slow down and say come run the boat. Buyer needs to consider what he is doing.
I sold my boat sight unseen, with aftermarket power to an OSO member. I think I was as nervous as he was. Until he called and started sending pictures, I was very uneasy. How would I know that he didn't have the oil changed or engines serviced before running it. How would I know if they put 8 qts. of oil in rather than the 14 qts. it held? That would make for a quick first trip if it left the trailer.
Seller needs to slow down and say come run the boat. Buyer needs to consider what he is doing.
I sold my boat sight unseen, with aftermarket power to an OSO member. I think I was as nervous as he was. Until he called and started sending pictures, I was very uneasy. How would I know that he didn't have the oil changed or engines serviced before running it. How would I know if they put 8 qts. of oil in rather than the 14 qts. it held? That would make for a quick first trip if it left the trailer.
03-05-2014, 10:18 AM
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The one/two rockers that broke when I owned it were in the PORT motor after the first full rebuild I paid for and were warranted by the manufacturer/builder. The BUYER says that two rockers were broke in the STBD motor. BTW....I also had the valve lash adjusted late season prior to the sale as well and of course, at that time, there were no issues.
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03-05-2014, 10:47 AM
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If the seller has an issue, HE needs to come on here and respond, not RAF.
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03-05-2014, 10:55 AM
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Eddie, I am sorry man I have to disagree with you, unless you advertised the boat with a blown motor, you didn't represent the boat 100% correct. You may have represented it to the best of your knowledge, but not knowing a motor is blown on a boat you are selling as fully functional is no excuse, and from my understanding you didn't represent the boat with a blown motor. I personally steer clear from brokers, as the boats I looked at that were with brokers they didn't have a clue about the boat, was just trying to sell. This story right here reinforces that to me. If the facts are correct that the boat arrived to the buyer with a blown motor and the broker advertised and sold the boat as running condition, I hope the broker is made liable for all repairs and all buyers court and lawyer fees. Maybe then brokers will understand that representing a boat and selling it has liability to it. I like the way the one guy runs his consignments, boat must be checked prior to taking on the boat to sell. Too many dishonest people in this world that want other people to pay for their screw ups. It seems pretty simple to me, If i owned a brokerage it would be required that a complete survey and test done on the boat prior to me agreeing to take it on. I just don't understand how you can sell something to someone describing it one way, and then take no responsibility when it isn't even close to the way it was represented. The "We didn't know" response will not gain you any business, and will definitely lose you business.
6 figure boat bought by a guy that did not come see the boat, did not come pick-up the boat, and "trusted" a stranger as to it's condition........
Sorry, I gotta place blame there.
Some years ago I agreed to buy a $50K boat 1,000 miles away that I couldn't go see. I spent almost $700 getting a survey/sea trail/mechanical inspection (which are not included in surveys!) done........promptly decline to buy the POS due to what was found. For under $1,000 the buyer could have had plenty of leverage or saved a bunch of cash.
Sorry, I gotta place blame there.
Some years ago I agreed to buy a $50K boat 1,000 miles away that I couldn't go see. I spent almost $700 getting a survey/sea trail/mechanical inspection (which are not included in surveys!) done........promptly decline to buy the POS due to what was found. For under $1,000 the buyer could have had plenty of leverage or saved a bunch of cash.
The buyer definitely didn't do the things he needed to do, no doubt. But with these things happening and the selling party has no responsibility its just going to get worse.
I do have a few questions though, and things I always asked when looking at a boat. How long was this boat for sale? Was there anyone else that was interested to the point where they had a survey done?
I do have a few questions though, and things I always asked when looking at a boat. How long was this boat for sale? Was there anyone else that was interested to the point where they had a survey done?
Let me ask this question to the OSO community: At what time, do you feel, does the responsibility of the purchase transfer to the buyer on a brokered boat?
03-05-2014, 11:06 AM
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Sorry, Eddie just said lifters and I previously said rockers. I'd go with what Eddie said as I misspoke. Again, no intent to mislead just flat out wrong with my info.
03-05-2014, 11:28 AM
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Legally or morally?? I think in this situation the repair should be split 50/50. But the cost should be controlled and only the parts that are junk are replaced. If the new owner wants to totally rebuild the motor then anything above the original cost comes out of the buyers pocket.
