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Old 06-04-2009, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shah Mat
Anyone used a Bravo 1 prop on a 251 Convincor? I have a Hydromotive QIV on there now that runs great but it seems a little bow heavy at higher speeds. It takes a lot of trim, past the drive limit switch, to achieve decent speeds on flat water. I read the Hydromotive is good for boats have natural bow lift like the old Convincors, but maybe it's the all junk on board for over night trips + the AC unit mounted mid ship.
We have a 2000 Convincor 259 w/ 454MAG (460HP). The best all around prop for this boat in my opinion (of those we have tried) is a non-labbed 24P B1. The boat spun a 23 Mirage Plus (came with the boat new), labbed 26 Bblades, 24 Hydromotive and finally the 24 B1. I like the 24 B1 for the best overall handling. The motor will only spin the 24 to about 5100RPMs which is where the motor makes peak HP. Hope this helps.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PURPLE HORNET
Stock bravo 1's have been the best all around prop I have seen for a Convincor. I would try on your boat the 24p bravo A labbed one will blow out and rev during crusing speeds and is only good for top end, and is useless everywhere else. Checkmates have no problem carring the bow so a bow lifting prop is no good.
How did you determine this? With the HP he is running I am thinging a labbed 26 bravo would work the best!
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by noyzee
my mate has a problem carring the bow. it rides very wet. i put a 23 mar plus on it and it road ok, but blew the prop out, labed and un labbed.

my 4 blades run much better, but i think with the rake right and labbed my 24 should be right where i need to be. we'll see wn brett finishes up the one i sent him yesterday
ZT's have problems carrying the bow, at least my old ZT 280 did.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PURPLE HORNET
Understand what you are saying but you also state that if you trim it. It will come up and thats a Checkmate. Theirs no need for a bow lifting prop if your trim will lift the boat. Thats what trim is for.

Let us know the true stats of the prop. I recomended NO 3 blades for any Deep V Checkmate
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Obviously you have never been in a ZT hull. As stated here they ride very wet with alot of hull in the water. The recipe that BBlades has been using for Noyzee's boat and my old boat has to do a semi agresive lab and then add more cup back in, works great! With that being said Convincors and ZT are a totally different animals, for my experience Convincors traditional have no problem keeping the bow high!
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:33 AM
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sweet. was your 496 a mag or ho?

Purple, even trimmed way up, past the 1/2 way mark on the trim gauge it still rides very wet. i think brett was on the right path with the 26p but my boat just didnt have the power to turn it. i think if he does that to the 24 i sent him, i will be in good shape.


Magic, your right on. i can trim my boat up till i have a roost going, the boat goes no faster or slower after a point, and the r's dont change. the 26 bblades did for me seemed to work the best so far for carring the boat (still a little to wet) but with the lower HP mag i couldnt spin the prop past the 4400-4600 range. like i said, i tested the 24 b1 on my boat tuesday and it seemed to be pretty good but would only run about 4600-4700 rpm trimmed way up, so im guessing if brett labs it up nice, and throws what he needs to for the bow lift, im thinking i will be in good shape!!

i 2nd day aird him the prop, so he should have it today
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:52 AM
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ive ran 28 and 30 b1's 1.5 bravo, 88 251 convioncor, 509 blower, about 700hp... always seem to slip about 2800-3000 until you get the speed up, once at cruising speed about 45mph 3000rpm it hooks... i get alot of bow lift, he i am cruising at 70.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:02 AM
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700 hp in a 251, i like your style!!!! whats she top out at?
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:37 AM
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got it running at the end of last year, i had it 84gps about 5400rpm, that was for a couple seconds, i havnt pushed the sticks all the way yet!! im waiting for an xr upper, 700hp is estimated
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Originally Posted by Magic Medicine
How did you determine this? With the HP he is running I am thinging a labbed 26 bravo would work the best!
Too much slip its not worth the top end gain if any
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Magic Medicine
Hornet,

Obviously you have never been in a ZT hull. As stated here they ride very wet with alot of hull in the water. The recipe that BBlades has been using for Noyzee's boat and my old boat has to do a semi agresive lab and then add more cup back in, works great! With that being said Convincors and ZT are a totally different animals, for my experience Convincors traditional have no problem keeping the bow high!
Sorry my fault I did not know the ZT's were such a rock in the water that might explain why Noyzee boat will only run 60, I apologize I see the light now.
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