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Thank all of you guy's for the input, it was exactly what i was looking for. I am going look at the boat on friday, is there any paticular areas i should look at. Does any rotting show up in one area more than others? Any other things or areas i should really keep an eye out for? Thanks again in advance!
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If you hit one hard enough, you can break it. They're very tough so it's unusual at best. The stringers can rot- sometimes by wicking moisture from a rotten transom, sometimes through limber holes and sometimes through water getting into screw holes that are low and see standing water. You can thump them to see if they're solid but that won't tell you if they're wet. A moisture meter is always your best bet.
Look at where the stringers are glassed to the bottom and where the hull & deck are bonded. Sometimes this can be tough to see- pull every panel & access cover- take your time. The 35 I just bought had a couple of minor tab separations on bulkheads- nothing major and an easy fix. A loose stringer can be an entirely different story. Pull the floor and look good at that fuel tank- and smell too. If it's leaking, the foam will hold the gasoline smell forever. Not a nightmare replacement job but not a cake walk either.
Look at where the stringers are glassed to the bottom and where the hull & deck are bonded. Sometimes this can be tough to see- pull every panel & access cover- take your time. The 35 I just bought had a couple of minor tab separations on bulkheads- nothing major and an easy fix. A loose stringer can be an entirely different story. Pull the floor and look good at that fuel tank- and smell too. If it's leaking, the foam will hold the gasoline smell forever. Not a nightmare replacement job but not a cake walk either.
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Thanks a lot, you guy's are the best. Keep the input coming, if ya'll can think of anything else!!! I thought that O C Barry might have a few pointers that he came across while rerigging his 28.
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Gotta agree with Chis. I am rerigging a 28 Cigarette SS as we speak. I originally thought of a single blown 572 and a #6 but was concerned about torque steer at high speed as well as meandering at low speeds. Probably the deciding factor is the fact that 28 SS's have a huge, tall, center stringer. We were concerned that hacking up the center stringer would negatively impact the structural integrity of the boat. So we are going with supercharged smallblocks and Platinum XR Bravos.
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A 28 SS with Twin BBC is not a problem, we ran a 27' Magnum with twin BBC's, too heavy? Why? It handled the water great and ran in the mid 80s mph for the 19 years of ownership.
Most of our Sunday (other pleasure boaters, not organized races) afternoon races were in the Ocean off of Atlantic City and Margate (in the late 80's and early 90's). In the late 90's and up to 2004 most of the boating was in the upper Chesapeake (with mixed boat waves for cruisers), so we ran 84-86 mph in some rough water on occassion. The BBC's are heavier, but to say the boat doesn't handle the weight is bull****.
With that said a hot set of SBC, would be the optimum set-up. We ran BBC because my father had a set of LS-6 motors available, but small block strokers are the way to go.
Most of our Sunday (other pleasure boaters, not organized races) afternoon races were in the Ocean off of Atlantic City and Margate (in the late 80's and early 90's). In the late 90's and up to 2004 most of the boating was in the upper Chesapeake (with mixed boat waves for cruisers), so we ran 84-86 mph in some rough water on occassion. The BBC's are heavier, but to say the boat doesn't handle the weight is bull****.
With that said a hot set of SBC, would be the optimum set-up. We ran BBC because my father had a set of LS-6 motors available, but small block strokers are the way to go.
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In fact if someone needs one, I have an aluminum blower style hatch for a 28 that I am not using that I will let go CHEAP.
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Take a look at the Magnum forum. The 28 Cigarette has the same bottom as the 27 Magnum. Several Magnums have been converted from twin to single. Raceboats such as "Deranged" and "Vixen" are good examples. I just picked up a 27 Magnum hull and am converting it from twin to single. One disadvantage no one has mentioned is how hard it is to work on a twin engine boat. A single allows plenty of room to do basic maitenance like changing oil or plugs. Most old 28 Cigarettes had twin 350 CID with 280 horsepower. A single reliable engine of 500 Horsepower will be approximately the same speed as twin 300's-70+/- mph. The cost factor of two drives and engines vs. one was also a consideration for me.
Twins have the advantage of a "get home motor" if one breaks-but thats why I have Tow insurance. Good luck with your decision!
Take a look at the Magnum forum. The 28 Cigarette has the same bottom as the 27 Magnum. Several Magnums have been converted from twin to single. Raceboats such as "Deranged" and "Vixen" are good examples. I just picked up a 27 Magnum hull and am converting it from twin to single. One disadvantage no one has mentioned is how hard it is to work on a twin engine boat. A single allows plenty of room to do basic maitenance like changing oil or plugs. Most old 28 Cigarettes had twin 350 CID with 280 horsepower. A single reliable engine of 500 Horsepower will be approximately the same speed as twin 300's-70+/- mph. The cost factor of two drives and engines vs. one was also a consideration for me.
Twins have the advantage of a "get home motor" if one breaks-but thats why I have Tow insurance. Good luck with your decision!