Gladiator reviews
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put it in your sig line... i gotta teach you everything!!!!
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No they are not more prone. Its moron behind the wheel as to why rolls and spins happen. Theres no reason to crank the wheel over at 60, 70 80 mph. Slow down and take your turn. I have about 250hr seat time in the boat and have never felt uneasy in any situation. All Gladiator, T/S, or any boat is prone to anything if not driven correctly.
The first generation of stepped bottoms manufacturers learned a lot. Wasn't just Cig. Donzi 22ZX and 45ZX are in the mix too.
What manufacturers seemed to do on version 1 of their stepped hulls is simply put steps in their old V bottoms. What happens then is the boat rolls in turns just like the older straight bottom boats. This means the boat rolls to one side of the V, then slides on air/water and there is a definite sideways momentum that builds. This is not a problem.... unless the middle of the V 'catches' during the turn which stops the center middle of the hull from sliding and all that sideways momentum ****s to the top of the boat so it rolls over. If one is lucky it's just eject-o-seat-o. unlucky or too much speed and it rolls/sinks.
On newer stepped bottom hulls you'll see little tweaks to alleviate the roll. When you turn at speed the boat will remain relatively flat versus old straight bottom V's. The feeling is totally different too. Turn at speed and the ass end just kinda shifts from side to side and you are pointing in a new direction versus that dig in and roll we used to get in straight bottoms. Watch the Donzi Miami Vice trailer/promo on youtube
attached is a pic of my old 28ZX, you can see there are 2 small delta pads on the bottom after each step highlighted in red... at speed it helps keep the boat flat and stops the sharp part of a normal V from catching in a turn.
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There is a reason if someone comes out of the blue and cuts you off unexpectedly. That's what happened to one of the Donzi 45ZX's that rolled and sunk. And that aint driver error, except the other driver. I have been in my boat, in the channel and someone just decided to throttle up and cut directly in front of me from outside the channel at a 90 degree angle into it and right in front of me. Complete stupidity but I had to do an evasive maneuver to not hit the A-hole.
The first generation of stepped bottoms manufacturers learned a lot. Wasn't just Cig. Donzi 22ZX and 45ZX are in the mix too.
What manufacturers seemed to do on version 1 of their stepped hulls is simply put steps in their old V bottoms. What happens then is the boat rolls in turns just like the older straight bottom boats. This means the boat rolls to one side of the V, then slides on air/water and there is a definite sideways momentum that builds. This is not a problem.... unless the middle of the V 'catches' during the turn which stops the center middle of the hull from sliding and all that sideways momentum ****s to the top of the boat so it rolls over. If one is lucky it's just eject-o-seat-o. unlucky or too much speed and it rolls/sinks.
On newer stepped bottom hulls you'll see little tweaks to alleviate the roll. When you turn at speed the boat will remain relatively flat versus old straight bottom V's. The feeling is totally different too. Turn at speed and the ass end just kinda shifts from side to side and you are pointing in a new direction versus that dig in and roll we used to get in straight bottoms. Watch the Donzi Miami Vice trailer/promo on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JO_PlrMeA and you can see multiple examples of how little the boats roll and how the rear ends just kinda move around in turns.... that is only when they are moving fast enough to be ventilated. During slow speeds they act just like a regular V, so you get big roll slow.
attached is a pic of my old 28ZX, you can see there are 2 small delta pads on the bottom after each step highlighted in red... at speed it helps keep the boat flat and stops the sharp part of a normal V from catching in a turn.
The first generation of stepped bottoms manufacturers learned a lot. Wasn't just Cig. Donzi 22ZX and 45ZX are in the mix too.
What manufacturers seemed to do on version 1 of their stepped hulls is simply put steps in their old V bottoms. What happens then is the boat rolls in turns just like the older straight bottom boats. This means the boat rolls to one side of the V, then slides on air/water and there is a definite sideways momentum that builds. This is not a problem.... unless the middle of the V 'catches' during the turn which stops the center middle of the hull from sliding and all that sideways momentum ****s to the top of the boat so it rolls over. If one is lucky it's just eject-o-seat-o. unlucky or too much speed and it rolls/sinks.
On newer stepped bottom hulls you'll see little tweaks to alleviate the roll. When you turn at speed the boat will remain relatively flat versus old straight bottom V's. The feeling is totally different too. Turn at speed and the ass end just kinda shifts from side to side and you are pointing in a new direction versus that dig in and roll we used to get in straight bottoms. Watch the Donzi Miami Vice trailer/promo on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JO_PlrMeA and you can see multiple examples of how little the boats roll and how the rear ends just kinda move around in turns.... that is only when they are moving fast enough to be ventilated. During slow speeds they act just like a regular V, so you get big roll slow.
attached is a pic of my old 28ZX, you can see there are 2 small delta pads on the bottom after each step highlighted in red... at speed it helps keep the boat flat and stops the sharp part of a normal V from catching in a turn.
Dan should hire you to run R&D for bottom design at Outerlimits!!
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