WTB: Mystique, Vice or Updated 35's
#41
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It has very "questionable" paint I'd say, and he won't budge below 79 at this point. He didn't feel 500 efi's are more valuable than HO's, etc. He claims to know the Cig market, but sells a bunch of dirty lookin pontoons and knock-off ski boats from what I can tell. Maybe that is a fair price....but I don't think so.
Compared to the 2000 with 500's that just sold for "70K", that is no deal to me.
Compared to the 2000 with 500's that just sold for "70K", that is no deal to me.
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No, I would take that as an initial offer, but wouldn't at all be surprised to get a counter offer. My version of a tire kicker is if you came in at $50k for the Mystique, and that was your final offer.
As far as the 2002 boat, it's been on our lake since it was delivered new. The same guy that ordered it, built the 35TS that "H20 Toie" owned after he built the Mystique. I see it just about every weekend in the Summer. I knew the original owner, who took excellent care of it, and it seems to have had good owners since. It's only been in fresh water, and hasn't ever left Grand Lake that I know of regardless of the Texas listing.
As far as the 2002 boat, it's been on our lake since it was delivered new. The same guy that ordered it, built the 35TS that "H20 Toie" owned after he built the Mystique. I see it just about every weekend in the Summer. I knew the original owner, who took excellent care of it, and it seems to have had good owners since. It's only been in fresh water, and hasn't ever left Grand Lake that I know of regardless of the Texas listing.
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I think those folks were speaking more for the overall market, not a firesale or beat up individual boat.
I'm sure many will agree that you're going to be waiting a LOOOOOONG time before TS Top Guns are selling for $50k..... LOL, using that "logic"......would mean 41 Apaches, straight bottom Cigarette's of all sizes, & various other older boats will be free!
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That boat belongs in the ocean, its bigger than the gas dock.
So what are the Vice's going for? How many did they make? What's the difference in the vice and the mystique........other than the paint job?
So what are the Vice's going for? How many did they make? What's the difference in the vice and the mystique........other than the paint job?
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Vice's are selling for 90-150k, but their are so few of them out thier!!!! I only know of 1 Vice for sale and it is in Orlando, great boat, the owner wants 150K for it. I think the Vice's have less to offer then the Mystiques, the Vice was ment to be a entry level Cigarette!! Thinking of moving up Andy?????
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LOL, yeah it's a BIG boat for sure. He rarely drives his boats. He had a beautiful Tiger before the RR, and a gorgeous Top Gun before the Tiger. I remember Ralph Martin saying the Gun had 20 hours when he traded for the Tiger. He then traded the Tiger with 15 hours or so? The RR probably has less than 30 total hours.
There's no significant difference in the Mystique & Vice. They only started building the 30 again, because enough people expressed interest in a smaller Cigarette. In typical fashion however, when they started offering the 30 to these people, they suddenly weren't in the market anymore.
Neat little boats!