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Old 04-30-2004, 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by chewy1955
here that the cigarettes are considerably heavier than other boats the same size.
It depends on the lay-up. Cigarette made Fiberglass, Kevlar, and Carbon Fiber. Heaviest to the lightest.

We have a 1991 38 Top Gun made out of carbon fiber. Cigarette said it weighs 9400 lbs with 1/2 tank of fuel. That is light for a 38!

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Originally posted by Jamie B.
What book ?

9,800 is what Cig published in their literature for a normal FG Top Gun in the mid 90's, and 9,400 is what was published for a normal FG Cafe'.

Craig Barrie informed me that the Carbon Fiber layup in my previous '91 Cafe' saved 400 pounds.
My bad it is 9400# I mistyped, my Tiger is 9800#
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Originally posted by chewy1955
1) I here that the cigarettes are considerably heavier than other boats the same size.

2) Do they really suck more gas than other boats the same size.
1) yes they are, but 'considerably' is subjective. As a comparision, a non stepped 35 Fountain Lightning weighs in at 8,600 pounds ( approximately ) and a 35 Cigarette Cafe' is 9,400 pounds.

2) yes due to more wetted / running surface in the water. The upside to that is that they ride VERY well, and you tend to stay nice and dry
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Originally posted by Jamie B.
1) yes they are, but 'considerably' is subjective. As a comparison, a non stepped 35 Fountain Lightning weighs in at 8,600 pounds ( approximately ) and a 35 Cigarette Cafe' is 9,400 pounds.
I don't think you can compare a Cafe and a Fountain 35, you need at least a Fountain 38 to have the same length.
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Originally posted by GLH
I don't think you can compare a Cafe and a Fountain 35, you need at least a Fountain 38 to have the same length.


There IS a photo floating around on here where a 35 Cafe' is rafted next to a 35 Lightning and it does indeed dwarf it.
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Here's a Cafe docked with a bunch of 38'ers
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Here is a Tiger parked with a bunch of Top Guns...Can you tell which is the Tiger?

No relevance at all...Just like posting Cigs together!
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thanks for sticking up for me bobby... you're ok in my book, dont care what they say about you....
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