Back In The Day
#471
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If my memory serves me correctly, and I was there at the time with Kiek. and tested both Cigs while working for ECK in Fond du lac. There were only two 36` Cigs for Magoon, the third boat in the picture right hand upper corner, I am pretty sure is a Memco built by Mabry Edwards for Kiek, a copy of the 36` Cig. The only other Cig. Kiek. had was a 40` which became Diamond Don, and ran the first true Kiek. drives, which should now have historical significance for the fact that the upper gear hsg. was locked straight and the lower gear case steered, They were the prelim. to the first number six drives. I built and tested the 40` with those drives along with Mel Riggs. I remember when we first tested the boat, we could not control it, it was a wild crazy ride. Eventually we found the problem, which was the fact that the helm we used was to quick, only about 3 turns lock to lock which meant we were over steering the boat, we changed the helm to slower and more turns and the boat ran perfect, hands off. Back then is when we were inventing the true power steering as we know it today, Prior we used dual ride guide cables with a power assist slave on one side, which was a derivitive of the power steering units from cars. 7XCHAMP
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H2O: the Aeromarine boat #666 is actually a Memco copy of the old 32` Bertram model stretched to 36` it was custom made for Carl Kiek. way back, It sat in the barn at Fond du lac for years, I was incorrect in one of my posts when I said it was a pop of the 36` Cig. I know the boat I was there, if you look at the strakes curving up in the front you will see the Bertram lines. Not to be confused with the later 38` Bertrams, totally different beast. I think Gil Lieber had something to do with the project and the actual owner was Sonny ????????? don`t remember last name, but Gil Lieber was close friends with Carl K. and used to visit frequently, I think they got the boat for next to nothing, it was built by Mabry Edwards in St. Augustine. 7XCHAMP
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Marco: I am pretty sure the transom to the right is the back end of Roger Penski`s 40` Cigarette Sunoco DX It was one of the only boats around with Blue hull and Yellow deck, also has the Patterson side exhaust. I speak with Lance Taines regularly, his father lives in Ft. Laud. he lives in L.A. he syill has the fever. Mark Raymond AKA Big Dirty used to throttle for Bob Higgins in the 32` Cig. Snoopy ex: Broadjumper etc.
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I knew the Sabre Dance for a black and white photo only; now thanks to h2oboater I can see how much that boat was beutiful!
Last edited by Black Tornado; 12-12-2007 at 03:11 PM.
#478
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You Guys are on to somthing,, Along with the box of all these great pictures I have on loan that I have been posting, there are some super 8 home movies of some 1973 races. In one race it looks like the Captian,, Roger Penske at the wheel of the Sunoco DX at a Ohio race. Did the 1973 Sam Griffith race start along the Miami beach ????? Because one of the movies has a GREAT 40+ boat start along the beach.
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You Guys are on to somthing,, Along with the box of all these great pictures I have on loan that I have been posting, there are some super 8 home movies of some 1973 races. In one race it looks like the Captian,, Roger Penske at the wheel of the Sunoco DX at a Ohio race. Did the 1973 Sam Griffith race start along the Miami beach ????? Because one of the movies has a GREAT 40+ boat start along the beach.