The Rise & Fall of Ben Kramer
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the forward by his son shows the human side and cost of his ordeal. yes, he did many bad things in the past but at his point i just dont see him as any threat to anyone so whats the point of prison?
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good to hear SABER 28 fun fact it took us 2 years tracking down bens kid! we met him in kw at a ihop this winter adn gave him a copy of the issue for his dad, he looks 1-1 like ben!
All kidding aside I gotta order one of these. Never have enough Apache stuff..
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gofastboat--these are your options.
Option 1 - NEVER mention your magazine on OSO again or be banned AGAIN.
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Option 3-Purchase a Commercial Membership which will allow you to post your business/magazine info in your signature
Option 1 - NEVER mention your magazine on OSO again or be banned AGAIN.
Option 2 -Contact OSO about becoming a paid advertiser
Option 3-Purchase a Commercial Membership which will allow you to post your business/magazine info in your signature
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how about reaching out to me directly "the first" time instead of spamming my posts or deleting them! really not a good way into my heart or my wallet. feel free to delate my account as well as the content associated with it! this forum is done anyway.
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everyone wants to make statements like "free ben kramer" or "when will ben get out?" what if ben is the closest thing to pure evil that the boating community has ever seen? i mean the guy is idolized for his violence and such. he was a criminal that has grown in popularity due to his afliction with powerboats. was he as admired when he was out as he is being incarcared? seems we might not know what we really are asking for
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everyone wants to make statements like "free ben kramer" or "when will ben get out?" what if ben is the closest thing to pure evil that the boating community has ever seen? i mean the guy is idolized for his violence and such. he was a criminal that has grown in popularity due to his afliction with powerboats. was he as admired when he was out as he is being incarcared? seems we might not know what we really are asking for
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I agree he's probably not a threat any more but....... he was sentenced to life, without parole. Since then, he had that bungled helicopter stunt and was also convicted in relation to the Aronow case. If he gets out early, what does "life without parole really mean"?
SABER, I like your bumper sticker, but outside of the boating community, do most Americans know who Ben Kramer is? Do you think people see your sticker then drive away thinking "Who the f*** is Ben Kramer?"
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SABER, I like your bumper sticker, but outside of the boating community, do most Americans know who Ben Kramer is? Do you think people see your sticker then drive away thinking "Who the f*** is Ben Kramer?"
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I agree he's probably not a threat any more but....... he was sentenced to life, without parole. Since then, he had that bungled helicopter stunt and was also convicted in relation to the Aronow case. If he gets out early, what does "life without parole really mean"?
SABER, I like your bumper sticker, but outside of the boating community, do most Americans know who Ben Kramer is? Do you think people see your sticker then drive away thinking "Who the f*** is Ben Kramer?"
RR
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SABER, I like your bumper sticker, but outside of the boating community, do most Americans know who Ben Kramer is? Do you think people see your sticker then drive away thinking "Who the f*** is Ben Kramer?"
RR
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Harvey Weinstein is 68 years old, Jeffrey Epstein was 67 years old, Bernie Madhoff was 70 when he was caught.............were they not a threat to anyone?????
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