Wat is this in my heads?
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This is a follow up to the budget way to 500hp thread i did.
I opened my valve covers today to check if the heads/rockers where as the seller said, they where.
But the issue i have is all the extra bs stuff in the heads! so much metal and plastic i was really surprised.
1 piece looks like part of a hose clamp and the grey pieces are hard plastic parts.
And all the metal shavings are probably my bearings.![Frown](/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
![OhhhPOOPOO](/forums/images/smilies/more/ohhhPOOPOO.gif)
Enough to make a grown man cry...
I did notice the valve covers where grinded down, also 1 rocker on each head for clearance. unless the weren't and worn themselves but i highly doubt that.
So here is my question. Does the metal piece ( clip looking one) look like anything that comes from inside the engine or is something that was dropped inside?
same for the plastic shavings... any plastic parts inside an engine?
I will be taking the pan off to further investigate, also will be calling the guy who sold me this
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plastic/metal shavings
![](https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/277452859_1590942507943020_4820775471205192146_n_abccde17543e3958a237c0731f984e0e33abbaa1.jpg)
plastic/metal shavings
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mix of plastic/metal shavings
![](https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/276977281_695885261418000_837395811033317116_n_787979e198515b80943545085b2639a5a7c89fed.jpg)
plastic chunk
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head overview
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this is the clip looking part
![](https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/276326053_267846022230262_568290923270908264_n_989e153e9dd3b2f905edbaa7a689b4e3ca673ef4.jpg)
same side as clip part, bunch of junk
I opened my valve covers today to check if the heads/rockers where as the seller said, they where.
But the issue i have is all the extra bs stuff in the heads! so much metal and plastic i was really surprised.
1 piece looks like part of a hose clamp and the grey pieces are hard plastic parts.
And all the metal shavings are probably my bearings.
![Frown](/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
![OhhhPOOPOO](/forums/images/smilies/more/ohhhPOOPOO.gif)
Enough to make a grown man cry...
I did notice the valve covers where grinded down, also 1 rocker on each head for clearance. unless the weren't and worn themselves but i highly doubt that.
So here is my question. Does the metal piece ( clip looking one) look like anything that comes from inside the engine or is something that was dropped inside?
same for the plastic shavings... any plastic parts inside an engine?
I will be taking the pan off to further investigate, also will be calling the guy who sold me this
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plastic/metal shavings
![](https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/277452859_1590942507943020_4820775471205192146_n_abccde17543e3958a237c0731f984e0e33abbaa1.jpg)
plastic/metal shavings
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/277543736_2652732418205179_4711309699116845441_n_e60a8389d96dc8c831c69dc1862f5f0279edf4a1.jpg)
mix of plastic/metal shavings
![](https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/276977281_695885261418000_837395811033317116_n_787979e198515b80943545085b2639a5a7c89fed.jpg)
plastic chunk
![](https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/2000x1504/277237686_1906295979556559_1544545312047820073_n_075a0dc336c42de040c2e9ea362e65115e2f647c.jpg)
head overview
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this is the clip looking part
![](https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.offshoreonly.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/276326053_267846022230262_568290923270908264_n_989e153e9dd3b2f905edbaa7a689b4e3ca673ef4.jpg)
same side as clip part, bunch of junk
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04-02-2022, 04:24 PM
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I got a hold of the seller, sent him the pics, he was very understanding of my concerns, told him i was willing to bring the engine back for a full refund or take 6k back as rebuilding funds.
He wants the engine back. so tomorrow I'm getting my money back, very happy he is a good honest man, very disappointed I'm still looking for an engine.
I was sent a PM pointing out the parts of plastic and metal shards are Teflon valve seals.
He wants the engine back. so tomorrow I'm getting my money back, very happy he is a good honest man, very disappointed I'm still looking for an engine.
I was sent a PM pointing out the parts of plastic and metal shards are Teflon valve seals.
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I was gonna keep my mouth shut on the crankcase vent system the previous owner made on his old/your new engine, but I kept my fat mouth shut.
Well, now I won't. What the hell is this ? And was it because he was losing oil out the vc's ? Probably, as your motor has some issues I'm sure. That'ds a lot of crap in your heads.
Well, now I won't. What the hell is this ? And was it because he was losing oil out the vc's ? Probably, as your motor has some issues I'm sure. That'ds a lot of crap in your heads.
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btw: I'd call the guy now and see what he wants to do from there. If he wants engine back then it will help by not taking pan off yet.
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If it's sitting in the heads - it's everywhere in the engine if it was run even for a few moments... That's a lot of EVERY kind of filing to flush through/ into an assembled engine.
Was the engine shipped with the filters on the engine? Pull them apart - then the engines.
Was the engine shipped with the filters on the engine? Pull them apart - then the engines.
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I got a hold of the seller, sent him the pics, he was very understanding of my concerns, told him i was willing to bring the engine back for a full refund or take 6k back as rebuilding funds.
He wants the engine back. so tomorrow I'm getting my money back, very happy he is a good honest man, very disappointed I'm still looking for an engine.
I was sent a PM pointing out the parts of plastic and metal shards are Teflon valve seals.
He wants the engine back. so tomorrow I'm getting my money back, very happy he is a good honest man, very disappointed I'm still looking for an engine.
I was sent a PM pointing out the parts of plastic and metal shards are Teflon valve seals.
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all the stuff on the top of the heads looks to be pc valve stem seals.
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Looks like broken up valve seals like Mike said. I bet the retainers are coming down and hitting the seals or there is nothing keeping the inner springs from walking around and hitting the seals. I personally do not like teflon seals. I have been using the later style metal cased seals for at least 20 years now.
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Good eye SB. I glanced over the copper pipe breather mod in that thread.
The Glyptal job in there does look nice though.
The Glyptal job in there does look nice though.