My New 29 Canopy w/ Arneson Surface Drive
03-07-2011, 11:13 AM
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I was just wondering if there was an update about this sad story. I do not know why this did not get posted in the beware section as a help to anyone considering a boat by the Force company written about here?
03-15-2011, 03:10 AM
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this is a confusing situation here...he purchased a drive and a trailer for a boat he intended to purchase ...then the motor took a crap 2 times which appeared to be under warranty and the motor builder backed out on so he niched the entire deal w the boat Co-Force. I am shocked mike from Force got himself into the situation of reglassing and installing a new drive before he was paid for the boat. Wouldnt it been better to follow through w the boat and find a qualified person to square away the motor issue?
so maybe thats another $10-15k and then hash that out w the Force(mike) and the orig motor builder/phaff rather than walking away from the drive and trailer you purchased(maybe$30-40K)--did you give them the trailer title so they could sell the trailer?
from what i read it appears he paid for the boat and refused it bc the deal w the motors (guess thats where there is over 100k total invested)--i wonder on what pretense the boat was liquated by Force?
i would of never let my hard earned money fall out of my hands like this.....it can be a lesson for fellow and future boaters if these situations arise in the future!
so maybe thats another $10-15k and then hash that out w the Force(mike) and the orig motor builder/phaff rather than walking away from the drive and trailer you purchased(maybe$30-40K)--did you give them the trailer title so they could sell the trailer?
from what i read it appears he paid for the boat and refused it bc the deal w the motors (guess thats where there is over 100k total invested)--i wonder on what pretense the boat was liquated by Force?
i would of never let my hard earned money fall out of my hands like this.....it can be a lesson for fellow and future boaters if these situations arise in the future!
04-05-2011, 05:28 PM
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Twin LS motors in that 29 vs a big single would be a sweet package.
04-05-2011, 05:34 PM
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Brad Ayers and Mike Morales have people waiting in line for judgement money. I have talked to Hotstang and also have a friend who was screwed out of 6 figures by Ayers. As far as the boats, they seem to be decent boats. May not be the fastest but they look good.
Twin LS motors in that 29 vs a big single would be a sweet package.
Twin LS motors in that 29 vs a big single would be a sweet package.
04-05-2011, 07:08 PM
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My friend posted on performanceboats.com forum after he got screwed and the post was eventually moved to greywater storage area there due to the moderaters. Perfboats deals in more westcoast type cats which is where force was located and was a more relavent site with more force owners.
Interesting enough, Hotstangs 29' was the original boat my friend ordered and never received. So Ayers promised him a 32' instead which Ayers never finished. He is one swell guy that rumor has it was shot due to bad a business deal.
Force was has long since been belly up and god knows what happened to the molds. Mike Morales tried to unsuccessfully build boats under the force name for a while but the name was too far tainted and still stunk of Ayers.
Interesting enough, Hotstangs 29' was the original boat my friend ordered and never received. So Ayers promised him a 32' instead which Ayers never finished. He is one swell guy that rumor has it was shot due to bad a business deal.
Force was has long since been belly up and god knows what happened to the molds. Mike Morales tried to unsuccessfully build boats under the force name for a while but the name was too far tainted and still stunk of Ayers.
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