242LS prop choice - cruising, speed
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Hi,
Thought I would start another thread to discuss props.
I have a 1989 242LS with a 454 magnum (365 HP)
I'm running a SS 21P mirage prop. (part #48-13702 A40; what does the A40 mean? I've seen different suffixes for this part number)
At WOT, tabs up and drive trimmed I'm seeing 53mph on GPS. This is with 3/4 fuel and 2 people. The tach shows 5300+rpms which is too much; book says max RPM should be between 4600-5000.
I'm thinking about trying a 23p mirage prop. (Would I get a mirage or mirage+, what is the difference?)
What are other single big block 242LS owners running?
Top speed isn't that important as I wouldn't keep it at WOT for long, but rather I'd like to bump up my cruising speeds in the 3000 to 3500rpm range.
Also, how long is it safe to run at WOT? ("until the motor grenades" Yeah I know that, but really, how long do you run at WOT?)
Chuck
Thought I would start another thread to discuss props.
I have a 1989 242LS with a 454 magnum (365 HP)
I'm running a SS 21P mirage prop. (part #48-13702 A40; what does the A40 mean? I've seen different suffixes for this part number)
At WOT, tabs up and drive trimmed I'm seeing 53mph on GPS. This is with 3/4 fuel and 2 people. The tach shows 5300+rpms which is too much; book says max RPM should be between 4600-5000.
I'm thinking about trying a 23p mirage prop. (Would I get a mirage or mirage+, what is the difference?)
What are other single big block 242LS owners running?
Top speed isn't that important as I wouldn't keep it at WOT for long, but rather I'd like to bump up my cruising speeds in the 3000 to 3500rpm range.
Also, how long is it safe to run at WOT? ("until the motor grenades" Yeah I know that, but really, how long do you run at WOT?)
Chuck
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Chuck, Right now I am running a bravo 1 4 blade 22 pitch, but I had it labbed by houston prop. All trimmed up I will get 4600-4700 rpm, with a nice cruise around 3000-3200. This prop gets me out of the hole pretty nice with good control in cornering.
Hope this helps
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ps At least you`ve had yours out already.
Hope this helps
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ps At least you`ve had yours out already.
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I have had really great results with the Michigan Ballistic Prop. They seem to have a lot better hole-shot and better top end also. As a matter of fact Houston Propeller has their own design which from what I can tell is somewhat similar. I think it's a cross between a Mirage and a Ballistic they call it the Accellerator I think. Most people really seem to like it. When I can afford it I plan on shipping mine out.
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Chuck, From what I can remember cruising is in the low 30`s top is about 61mph sorry not gps numbers. Give darin a call at Houston prop he can help you out. The one thing you will need is seat time just to get the feel of your boat and where the trim feels right. Top speed in the 242 should be about 63 max unless your running sum big power. Remember play with your trim and your tabs the boat will respond very nice.
Hey Chuck it`s not easy being the small guys on the board.
Hey Chuck it`s not easy being the small guys on the board.
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Originally posted by masi242
The one thing you will need is seat time just to get the feel of your boat and where the trim feels right. Top speed in the 242 should be about 63 max unless your running sum big power. Remember play with your trim and your tabs the boat will respond very nice.
The one thing you will need is seat time just to get the feel of your boat and where the trim feels right. Top speed in the 242 should be about 63 max unless your running sum big power. Remember play with your trim and your tabs the boat will respond very nice.
The Bay is getting "smaller" with a bigger boat. Last weekend we drove from my marina to Annapolis, MD in 20 minutes; with the old boat it took 45 minutes, mostly because we had to go real slow in rough water.
Hey Chuck it`s not easy being the small guys on the board. [/B]
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Originally posted by chuck21401
I would like to think of this boat as the step between the 18 Sea Ray and a 30 or 35 Formula. I told my wife that we would try the Formula to see if we like performance boats and the next one could either be a Sea Ray Weekender or a sport boat with twin 454s. Last weekend she pointed to a much bigger formula that passed by and said "we should get one of those." The seeds have been sowed!
I would like to think of this boat as the step between the 18 Sea Ray and a 30 or 35 Formula. I told my wife that we would try the Formula to see if we like performance boats and the next one could either be a Sea Ray Weekender or a sport boat with twin 454s. Last weekend she pointed to a much bigger formula that passed by and said "we should get one of those." The seeds have been sowed!
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Chuck,
I'd suggest either a 23 standard Mirage, or a 21 Mirage plus. The Mirage plus has added cup, so that is why you would go smaller. Those 2 props are fairly common, so maybe a local shop will let you try one. You could try a 22 bravo 4 blade as well.
I had a 24' performance boat with similar hull and weight as a 242. and the same 365 mag package. The 23 standard Mirage was the right prop for that boat. RPM's averaged from 4900-5050 depending on weight and conditions.
Hmmm... I actually have a 23 Mirage still lying around somewhere that I could part with. If you end up going that route drop me a PM if you want and we possibly could work a deal.
I'd suggest either a 23 standard Mirage, or a 21 Mirage plus. The Mirage plus has added cup, so that is why you would go smaller. Those 2 props are fairly common, so maybe a local shop will let you try one. You could try a 22 bravo 4 blade as well.
I had a 24' performance boat with similar hull and weight as a 242. and the same 365 mag package. The 23 standard Mirage was the right prop for that boat. RPM's averaged from 4900-5050 depending on weight and conditions.
Hmmm... I actually have a 23 Mirage still lying around somewhere that I could part with. If you end up going that route drop me a PM if you want and we possibly could work a deal.
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IMMEDIATELY, get down on your knees and praise the Lord. You have just successfully cleared the largest hurdle in offshore boating, wives.
IMMEDIATELY, get down on your knees and praise the Lord. You have just successfully cleared the largest hurdle in offshore boating, wives.
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I went ahead and bought a 23 mirage plus prop from a local supplier.
With 2 people and 3/4 fuel I could only spin to 4200rpms trimmed out @ 54mph GPS. I used more trim but then the prop broke loose and I slowed down considerably.
Good news is that the cruising speed has gone up. 3200 rpms with some trim and tabs down a bit to keep the nose down put me at 34 mph. I am now getting some "porpoising" without running tabs in the midrange. If I give it more throttle, 3500rpms and above, the ride flattens out.
Prop supplier suggested that I try a 4 blade 22 pitch bravo prop.
With 2 people and 3/4 fuel I could only spin to 4200rpms trimmed out @ 54mph GPS. I used more trim but then the prop broke loose and I slowed down considerably.
Good news is that the cruising speed has gone up. 3200 rpms with some trim and tabs down a bit to keep the nose down put me at 34 mph. I am now getting some "porpoising" without running tabs in the midrange. If I give it more throttle, 3500rpms and above, the ride flattens out.
Prop supplier suggested that I try a 4 blade 22 pitch bravo prop.