382 or 419 formula How fast???
10-20-2004, 07:04 AM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
Hi
I own a 419 SR 1 (non stepped hull ) with Triple 496 HO Lab finished Bravo 1 26 pitch props no boxes very low X- Dimension
Top speed is 73 MPH (almost the same speed than a 382 Fas Tech with twin 500 EFIs ) The 496 HO need altogether 90 gal /hour at wide open throttle - I think twin 500 EFI need about 84 gal / hour
So I would never change my boat to a 382 - the only intersting change will be a 419 Fas Tech -
I Think they never build one with 496 HO - would have been a great package - Triple 496 HO cost less than twin 500 EFI and you get great performance
My boat is running all day with 10 Persons on board into the rev- limiter
I will upgrade next year to Extensionboxes and shorter drives and 28 pitch lab finished props - hope to see 78 - 80 MPH with the new setup
I own a 419 SR 1 (non stepped hull ) with Triple 496 HO Lab finished Bravo 1 26 pitch props no boxes very low X- Dimension
Top speed is 73 MPH (almost the same speed than a 382 Fas Tech with twin 500 EFIs ) The 496 HO need altogether 90 gal /hour at wide open throttle - I think twin 500 EFI need about 84 gal / hour
So I would never change my boat to a 382 - the only intersting change will be a 419 Fas Tech -
I Think they never build one with 496 HO - would have been a great package - Triple 496 HO cost less than twin 500 EFI and you get great performance
My boat is running all day with 10 Persons on board into the rev- limiter
I will upgrade next year to Extensionboxes and shorter drives and 28 pitch lab finished props - hope to see 78 - 80 MPH with the new setup
10-23-2004, 12:07 PM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
Goofy,
What year is your 419? I thought the 496's came out after the introduction of the Fastech hull. Was it repowered at some point or were the 496's factory installed?
What part of the country are you located and what does it cost to insure your 419?
Any pictures?
Sounds like some nice upgrade plans coming. Let us know how that works out when you are done!
What year is your 419? I thought the 496's came out after the introduction of the Fastech hull. Was it repowered at some point or were the 496's factory installed?
What part of the country are you located and what does it cost to insure your 419?
Any pictures?
Sounds like some nice upgrade plans coming. Let us know how that works out when you are done!
10-23-2004, 05:57 PM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
Goofy--- if you run with the 38's how does the 419 w/triples do on fuel consumption in comparison at cruising conditions? When at fuel stops are you using that much more fuel? There is a 91' 419 in the classifieds that seems to be a good deal. I was also curious about insurance on one. Would love to see some pics of yours
10-25-2004, 05:07 AM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
My 419 was build 1991 - It was a dealers boat show boat - I purchased it in 1998 and at this time it came first time into the water.
It was factory equipped with TWIN Mercruiser 465 wit Bravo 1 1:1,36 and
19 ` Mirage Props - Top speed was 57 MPH
In 2002 I made a big change to Triple 496 HO s with Bravo 1 X 1:1,50 and lab finished 26 `Bravo 1 Props
I am boating on the northern part of the River Rhine in Germany and in the Summer I tow my boat to spain (Ibiza and Mallorca)
It was factory equipped with TWIN Mercruiser 465 wit Bravo 1 1:1,36 and
19 ` Mirage Props - Top speed was 57 MPH
In 2002 I made a big change to Triple 496 HO s with Bravo 1 X 1:1,50 and lab finished 26 `Bravo 1 Props
I am boating on the northern part of the River Rhine in Germany and in the Summer I tow my boat to spain (Ibiza and Mallorca)
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10-25-2004, 05:17 AM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
some more pics
my boat is a non stepped SR 1
This boat runs great , you can make full turns at wide open throttle and the hull just goes thru the water like a hot knife thru butter.
as You can see on the photos the x Dimension is very deep ( I think the factory choosed this x dimension, because at the time the boat was build there were only Mirage Props available)- so there is still a lot speed to find with shorter drives and extension boxes.
At 3000 RPM I need 10 gal /hour /engine (Easy to see on the smartcraft 5000 monitors) an get a speed of 38 - 40 MPH
I never need tabs to come on plane and it just takes 5 seconds.
I pay about 2500 € for insurance thats about 2800 US $
Best regards
goofy
my boat is a non stepped SR 1
This boat runs great , you can make full turns at wide open throttle and the hull just goes thru the water like a hot knife thru butter.
as You can see on the photos the x Dimension is very deep ( I think the factory choosed this x dimension, because at the time the boat was build there were only Mirage Props available)- so there is still a lot speed to find with shorter drives and extension boxes.
At 3000 RPM I need 10 gal /hour /engine (Easy to see on the smartcraft 5000 monitors) an get a speed of 38 - 40 MPH
I never need tabs to come on plane and it just takes 5 seconds.
I pay about 2500 € for insurance thats about 2800 US $
Best regards
goofy
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10-25-2004, 05:50 AM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
Goofy-
Nice Looking 419!! You must do some serious long distance traveling by the looks of your electronics. The internet sure does make the world a much smaller place. Cheers!
Nice Looking 419!! You must do some serious long distance traveling by the looks of your electronics. The internet sure does make the world a much smaller place. Cheers!
10-26-2004, 02:22 AM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
Goofy,
Now I know who you are! I have seen a few pics of your boat in another thread. Really like it!
It really came rigged with twins? I heard there were a few out there. Would like to have seen one of these twin 419's converted to #6's!
Where did you get the re-rigging to triples done? Is there a Formula dealer over there? Or was this done somewhere else or did you do the work yourself? Looks like a really nice, clean job. Thanks for the pics!
Now I know who you are! I have seen a few pics of your boat in another thread. Really like it!
It really came rigged with twins? I heard there were a few out there. Would like to have seen one of these twin 419's converted to #6's!
Where did you get the re-rigging to triples done? Is there a Formula dealer over there? Or was this done somewhere else or did you do the work yourself? Looks like a really nice, clean job. Thanks for the pics!
10-26-2004, 03:53 AM
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Re: 382 or 419 formula How fast???
The former german Formula dealer "Tibus" in Rhumspringe Germany did this great job. He is no longer Formula dealer because he did not sell much Formulas in the last years , but the new dealers do not sell more. The problem here in Germany is, that because of a bad exchange rate together with higher factory prices the german sell prices raised from 1998 to now about 80 % . Who can pay 80 % more . I do not know lots of guys who can.
But this is a major problem that all american boat factories have here in europe, its not a special Formula problem.
Regards
goofy
But this is a major problem that all american boat factories have here in europe, its not a special Formula problem.
Regards
goofy
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