Bottom Blue Printing
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Most of the guys in the Chicago area go to Tom McNabb who owns Captain Nabbers shop in Morris Ill. The guy's been doing this for about 25-30 years now.
2 years ago he replaced all the stringers in my engine compartment, (except for the main center one). Replaced the complete transom, and blueprinted the bottom from the wind faring back. Gave the bottom a race finish when completed.
Don't know how much of an improvement it gave me cause I changed power during the process. What I will say is that I personally know about a half dozen other Fountain owners that had Tom do their bottoms, and they ALL were impressed with the results.
It all depends on how bad or wavey the bottom is before the job is started. He's a real reasonable and fair guy to deal with. Most of the guys I know, go there, and he gives us a super great deal.
He gave me a price, and a year later, he still stood by what he quoted me the previous year. He's kinda like the "old school" kinda way of doing business. I paid him half up front and told him that I expected a quality job. He even threw in a bunch of extra things that he found wrong, and touched up every nick and scratch on the boat, then buffed the whole boat for me, and when I came to pick it up, I asked him how much for the extra stuff he took care of, and he told me to forget about it.
Don't find many guys in this kind of boat business like this. As a matter of fact, he did the red 35 Fountain from LOTO, that won the shootout back about 3-4 years ago. Can't remember the guys name, but he ran a single carb class and won it a couple years in a row. Guys got a 42 Fountain now that I think says "Raymonds" on the side of the boat. He was at the shootout this year, think his name is John Malecki.
Nabbers # is 815-941-1546. ask for Tom, tell em Fountain Frank's a friend of yours. You won't be disappointed.
2 years ago he replaced all the stringers in my engine compartment, (except for the main center one). Replaced the complete transom, and blueprinted the bottom from the wind faring back. Gave the bottom a race finish when completed.
Don't know how much of an improvement it gave me cause I changed power during the process. What I will say is that I personally know about a half dozen other Fountain owners that had Tom do their bottoms, and they ALL were impressed with the results.
It all depends on how bad or wavey the bottom is before the job is started. He's a real reasonable and fair guy to deal with. Most of the guys I know, go there, and he gives us a super great deal.
He gave me a price, and a year later, he still stood by what he quoted me the previous year. He's kinda like the "old school" kinda way of doing business. I paid him half up front and told him that I expected a quality job. He even threw in a bunch of extra things that he found wrong, and touched up every nick and scratch on the boat, then buffed the whole boat for me, and when I came to pick it up, I asked him how much for the extra stuff he took care of, and he told me to forget about it.
Don't find many guys in this kind of boat business like this. As a matter of fact, he did the red 35 Fountain from LOTO, that won the shootout back about 3-4 years ago. Can't remember the guys name, but he ran a single carb class and won it a couple years in a row. Guys got a 42 Fountain now that I think says "Raymonds" on the side of the boat. He was at the shootout this year, think his name is John Malecki.
Nabbers # is 815-941-1546. ask for Tom, tell em Fountain Frank's a friend of yours. You won't be disappointed.
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I be the current owner of said red Fountain from LOTO...you know...the Shootout class winner! Wish I had the same power as John did right now, though!
Nabbers also did the windscreen on my boat. Plus, last year I had a little gel-work done, and it was FLAWLESS...which can't be too easy on an older RED boat.
Nabbers also did the windscreen on my boat. Plus, last year I had a little gel-work done, and it was FLAWLESS...which can't be too easy on an older RED boat.
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I appreciate the information from Chicago. Sounds like it may be worth if. I spoke with Billy Reedy of Reedy Marine which is right beside Leon Dereby and Highport Marine in Dennison, Texas area. He said he had been blue printing for many years and has great results. He estimated $2,500. Anyone had experience with his shop?
I will give the guy a call in Chicago.
Typically, is it the case that over the years the bottom loses some of its shape, or is it not perfect from the factory?
I will give the guy a call in Chicago.
Typically, is it the case that over the years the bottom loses some of its shape, or is it not perfect from the factory?
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I appreciate the information from Chicago. Sounds like it may be worth if. I spoke with Billy Reedy of Reedy Marine which is right beside Leon Dereby and Highport Marine in Dennison, Texas area. He said he had been blue printing for many years and has great results. He estimated $2,500. Anyone had experience with his shop?
I will give the guy a call in Chicago.
Typically, is it the case that over the years the bottom loses some of its shape, or is it not perfect from the factory?
I will give the guy a call in Chicago.
Typically, is it the case that over the years the bottom loses some of its shape, or is it not perfect from the factory?
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I just spoke with Tom at Nabbers. He is a little more expensive, but it sounds as though he is quite detailed. He wants the boat for 3-4 weeks. For my 35', it would cost around $4,000. He was sure that it would equate to more speed, especially if it had never been done before. He said the racers have it trued up yearly. I may wait until spring, it's just going to sit on the bunks until spring.
Tomtbone - he said it would be obviously more for a 42 but would need to speak with you about your boat.
Tomtbone - he said it would be obviously more for a 42 but would need to speak with you about your boat.
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What are people finding after their hull has been blue printed? Are they picking up speed? If so, how much? I don't mind spending the $, but would like to hear from those that have been there. Thanks.
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I appreciate the information from Chicago. Sounds like it may be worth if. I spoke with Billy Reedy of Reedy Marine which is right beside Leon Dereby and Highport Marine in Dennison, Texas area. He said he had been blue printing for many years and has great results. He estimated $2,500. Anyone had experience with his shop?
I will give the guy a call in Chicago.
Typically, is it the case that over the years the bottom loses some of its shape, or is it not perfect from the factory?
I will give the guy a call in Chicago.
Typically, is it the case that over the years the bottom loses some of its shape, or is it not perfect from the factory?
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The hull can have a hook or a bend in it from the factory for a couple of reasons. Some manufacturers put a hook in to decrease planing time or make up some other performance deficit. Sometimes it just warps a little when it's made and the manufacturer considers it within tolerance and let's it go. Over time sitting on a trailer or lift can cause the hull to deform a little too. This is why a touch up is needed every so often on some boats. Others will seemingly last forever. Also be forewarned that in some cases the boat will slow down after blueprinting or not gain any speed at all.
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Thanks Ted!
In Reggie's new Fountain buyer DVD he meantions improper trailer postion causes problems with the boat bottom (48 minutes in to it..)
In Reggie's new Fountain buyer DVD he meantions improper trailer postion causes problems with the boat bottom (48 minutes in to it..)