View Poll Results: Arneson Surface Drives
Yes put them on the new boat
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Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
10-27-2006, 04:57 PM
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Re: Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
Just want to add Rik had always went out of his way with any questions & has always been top shelf with me. service is second to none.
Also Howard Arneson is exceptional also.. 85years old in one of the fastest turbines in the world. Great guy to talk to. I hope I can be so lucky.....
Also Howard Arneson is exceptional also.. 85years old in one of the fastest turbines in the world. Great guy to talk to. I hope I can be so lucky.....
10-27-2006, 06:09 PM
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Re: Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
Originally Posted by Steve H
The same drive, the same trim level the same boat. Add a rudder and all things change? Please. Get some experience and get back to us. The rudder does not enable the drive to be trimmed higher than without one. A rudder might be good for a race boat but I can tell you for a fact (EXPERIENCE) that they are not for a pleasure boater.
I can personally attest to the above statement. I had fixed surface drives with rudders on my 42' deep v pleasure boat. It was not a pleasure to dock, it sucked. Drove fine at cruise speeds. But would be a handful near top end. The stern would lift and bow steer. I ran this set up for over five years.
Last year:
I finally got around to installing an old pair of Arnesons that I had purchased used. It was a big job, but very straight forward.
Now it docks just as easy as any other boat I have owned. I have a higher cruise speed, burn less fuel (as per floscan)
and if I want to ring her out it goes in the same direction I want it to.
I can personally attest to the above statement. I had fixed surface drives with rudders on my 42' deep v pleasure boat. It was not a pleasure to dock, it sucked. Drove fine at cruise speeds. But would be a handful near top end. The stern would lift and bow steer. I ran this set up for over five years.
Last year:
I finally got around to installing an old pair of Arnesons that I had purchased used. It was a big job, but very straight forward.
Now it docks just as easy as any other boat I have owned. I have a higher cruise speed, burn less fuel (as per floscan)
and if I want to ring her out it goes in the same direction I want it to.
One more thing: Even though I did not spend much money with Rik, he always gave me top notch service and advice.
Steve H
10-28-2006, 12:18 AM
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Re: Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
To 9 Lives;
Rik answered your question in post 125. That the notched transom is what causes the installation to be too far above the departing sheet of water to allow the propeller shaft to be run parallel to the bottom of the boat. Therefore, if the propeller shaft is directed downward, the thrust tends to raise the back of the boat and force the nose down. Hence, the handling problems.
Conversely, a conventional outdrive is bolted to the transom in an area above the notch and the outdrive can be set sufficiently low to have the propeller shaft run parallel to the departing sheet of water. Thus, eliminating stern lift and bow suppression.
Yes, there are examples of notched transoms "working great", but it seems to be fortuitous.
I still favor Arnesons. My orginal post was just an observation I made regarding installation pitfalls.
Thanks for your dialog.
Rik answered your question in post 125. That the notched transom is what causes the installation to be too far above the departing sheet of water to allow the propeller shaft to be run parallel to the bottom of the boat. Therefore, if the propeller shaft is directed downward, the thrust tends to raise the back of the boat and force the nose down. Hence, the handling problems.
Conversely, a conventional outdrive is bolted to the transom in an area above the notch and the outdrive can be set sufficiently low to have the propeller shaft run parallel to the departing sheet of water. Thus, eliminating stern lift and bow suppression.
Yes, there are examples of notched transoms "working great", but it seems to be fortuitous.
I still favor Arnesons. My orginal post was just an observation I made regarding installation pitfalls.
Thanks for your dialog.
11-02-2006, 01:57 PM
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Re: Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
Originally Posted by tomcat
Rik: Tell me more if you know; I just saw the blower belt on the back.
11-09-2006, 10:43 AM
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Re: Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
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Kind of independent lavatory testing you see.
11-09-2006, 10:49 AM
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Re: Would you put Arneson Surface Drives on a new boat?
I like the fact that the Arneson drive does NOT have a gimbal housing... It has a ball socket. You cannot break the ball socket. The Arneson doesn't have as many shafts and gears. Can you say " Elegance in simplicity" ? Why would anyone want a drive with so many moving parts, when you can get the same performance with a simpler drive?... Resale value?... All boats crash in value after a few years.
