Why Apache are so expensive?
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What is the price to get them sold is another thing.
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Had a smaller new boat with some fancy factory paint added some custom paint on it becides. Most looked at the boat and said "I like the paint" or "nice boat super paint.
The Appache has a rather frugal paint job done well. No logo but people ask about the boat most know not what it is but comments like "wow thats a big boat" thats a nice boat what is it", people that care less about go fasts. There are bigger and smaller vesseles around me faster, faster looking but they seem drawn to the boat. Its not even the name it goes beyond that. Its the lines, the design, the shape of the hull bottom. Its difficult to take your eyes away from it if you know a thing about a well designed hull or not.
The Appache has a rather frugal paint job done well. No logo but people ask about the boat most know not what it is but comments like "wow thats a big boat" thats a nice boat what is it", people that care less about go fasts. There are bigger and smaller vesseles around me faster, faster looking but they seem drawn to the boat. Its not even the name it goes beyond that. Its the lines, the design, the shape of the hull bottom. Its difficult to take your eyes away from it if you know a thing about a well designed hull or not.
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Here you CAN see 4 Ferraris or whatever at a Stoplight BUT Iīm the ONLY one with C1 fuelie I know in the whole country !
Iīll never forget an officers face at a stoplight when I could read from his lips what he tried to spell ... C-O-R-V-E-T-T-E...*Priceless.
*Z06 is a top class Exotic with a fine racing pedigree, the wins in LeMans for example...
* Hell now Iīm starting to sound like Reggie Fountain..SHAME on me!
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The lightest 41 lands at 8600 (?)...
No thats no lightweight considering materials used IMO.
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The majority of Cigs were and still are production based boats. Most, if not all, Apaches were custom built for each owner. Plus, the sheer number of Cigs built vs. Apache's is staggering, the market is flooded with them. The same goes for Formula etc.... There's not many Apaches out there.
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Could you share your knowledge.. ok the A is loud, doesnīt have all that cabin and glass windscreens and does have a straight racing pedigree which SR-1īs lack unless you go wayyyyy Back.
Howabout a Sutphen 39 then....now thats a rare bird with a fine heritage in a name...and an Even deeper V than anyother?
The Sutphen Family has made high perf boats 60+ yrs ..remember the Elco PT boats ?
I think the Apache hoopla is alive because thereīs been somuch talkabout them and every pleasure version owner likes to think they have a Warpath (or at least a former Drug runner) although thereīs surely quite a difference as can be read how 41 Aīs differ in their running and therefore configurations.
Reminds me of Every Ferrari (especially 250 GT 2+2) owner thinking they have their racing equivalent (250 GTO).
I see them fromer race 41Aīs none the better than any full tilt raceboat ..may it then be a Cig, CUV 41, Cougar 41, a FB design, Larry Smith 377 or whatever similar.
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The majority of Cigs were and still are production based boats. Most, if not all, Apaches were custom built for each owner. Plus, the sheer number of Cigs built vs. Apache's is staggering, the market is flooded with them. The same goes for Formula etc.... There's not many Apaches out there.
Skip Braver Article..on OSO
So whats the Difference here actually?
Only the Bad Boy Heritage of a bygone era IMO.
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I raced a Bad A-$ Apache "Tweet REVENGE " in 1992-1993 and sold it quickly in 1994 for less than it,s selling for Now !!It took over $650k ot build in 1992 and over 6 months ,we sold it for only $ 275 k and at the time we were glad it even sold . Now over 15 years later it,s worth more $.
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Apaches are a novelty item and people pay money for that.... Prices are set by the sellers and buyers, sometimes they're not in line but the bottom line is although these boats are old they hold their value (in some cases increase value) better than others. BTW, Cigs still hold value better than most brands but you can't go out and by an Apache today... You can buy a McManus Apache but it's not the same company...
This of course is my opinion and also the reason I would pay a little more to own an Apache, more than any other boat... I didn't want to pay the membership fee for the "Outerlimits Club" because I don't like them as much....
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No i glad it sold ,But i wish it would have sold for the fair market value at the time ! The price we thought it would demand was $ 450k . But rumors and the oriingal owners legal problems caused too much negatives and the bottom fishers came out to snatch it up !