Best rough water boat ever built?????
08-12-2008, 02:08 PM
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I actually had the privelege of going for a test ride in Warpath back in 85. I can't possibly think of a boat that could do better in rough water. I was in the NJ race that the now infamous video was taken. When we made the turn at Seaside the waves were huge and right in your face. One of our crew broke his back and we had to stop. Look at the video again and watch Panasonic going up and down the wave faces. He was doing maybe 40-45. Then watch warpath going through that same water at 85-90. It puts it in perspective.
08-12-2008, 02:58 PM
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You know it Viper! We are just learning this ourselves. Anyone have any idea what it's like to own a 31' boat and then jump up to a 41' Apache and run it in rough water? We were lucky to do 2800 RPM in rough water with our Stinger.
We're forced to do at least 70+MPH in rough water so we're not getting the crap beat out of us or the boat. That's instense when you're not use to driving/riding in rough water. I can't wait until the day Rob can stick the throttles forward and keep them there (throttling of course when needed---there's a whole other thread you can start and discuss because not everyone can throttle well), and look forward when the two of us have more fun with our ride instead of the intentisy we are experiencing today, and rightfully so.
Rob has a lot to learn in how to drive the our 41 in rough water, and he's not going to do that in one season. It depends on the waves and then there's dealing with Lake Erie.
Ask Bobby Saccenti what he thinks of driving on Lake Erie. It ain't pretty! I can't wait to see what he does next season after having a full season under his belt. What he's learned just this season is amazing.
How well a boat does in rough water will depend on the driver. Skramer can kick a$$ in rough water in his 35 Cafe. LEOPAJM gave us a ride in his 41 Saber a month ago in 6+ footers. Talk about intense, but exhiliarting. I wasn't sure if I wanted to laugh or cry at times. He's awesome at driving and that Saber is unbelieveable in rough water! It was a ride I will never forget!
Again, both guys know how to drive a boat in rough water. If you don't it takes balls to get out in the rough stuff, put the throttles forward when your legs feel like jell-o and your hearts racing a million miles an hour. In the end and once you learn how to drive, it will be worth all the shaky legs and heart racing.
We're forced to do at least 70+MPH in rough water so we're not getting the crap beat out of us or the boat. That's instense when you're not use to driving/riding in rough water. I can't wait until the day Rob can stick the throttles forward and keep them there (throttling of course when needed---there's a whole other thread you can start and discuss because not everyone can throttle well), and look forward when the two of us have more fun with our ride instead of the intentisy we are experiencing today, and rightfully so.
Rob has a lot to learn in how to drive the our 41 in rough water, and he's not going to do that in one season. It depends on the waves and then there's dealing with Lake Erie.
Ask Bobby Saccenti what he thinks of driving on Lake Erie. It ain't pretty! I can't wait to see what he does next season after having a full season under his belt. What he's learned just this season is amazing.How well a boat does in rough water will depend on the driver. Skramer can kick a$$ in rough water in his 35 Cafe. LEOPAJM gave us a ride in his 41 Saber a month ago in 6+ footers. Talk about intense, but exhiliarting. I wasn't sure if I wanted to laugh or cry at times. He's awesome at driving and that Saber is unbelieveable in rough water! It was a ride I will never forget!
Again, both guys know how to drive a boat in rough water. If you don't it takes balls to get out in the rough stuff, put the throttles forward when your legs feel like jell-o and your hearts racing a million miles an hour. In the end and once you learn how to drive, it will be worth all the shaky legs and heart racing.
i think you made the best point!!! DRIVER! its the most important variable to this thread...
ive had a blast this year running my apache.. only thing i can compare in rough water is my 32' fountain and let me tell you the difference is night and day! but i think that goes without saying...
08-12-2008, 03:20 PM
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i think you made the best point!!! DRIVER! its the most important variable to this thread...
ive had a blast this year running my apache.. only thing i can compare in rough water is my 32' fountain and let me tell you the difference is night and day! but i think that goes without saying...
ive had a blast this year running my apache.. only thing i can compare in rough water is my 32' fountain and let me tell you the difference is night and day! but i think that goes without saying...
What is the biggest water you personally have had your Apache in since owning it? Just curious.
08-12-2008, 03:24 PM
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I'm not sure I agree......
I believe the 40 foot Skater will give the 41 Apache a run (I've seen one eat up a 47 Apache in a very rough race...but the 41 is a better boat). The famous footage off Point Pleasant was shot on a day when the 50 foot Popeye's Aluminum Cougar cat could not run in the conditions.
Certain boats simply excel in the rough for their size, the 41 Apache, the 40 foot Skater, the 30 foot Shadow, the Cougar Vees, and Buzzi's behemoths.
I believe the 40 foot Skater will give the 41 Apache a run (I've seen one eat up a 47 Apache in a very rough race...but the 41 is a better boat). The famous footage off Point Pleasant was shot on a day when the 50 foot Popeye's Aluminum Cougar cat could not run in the conditions.
Certain boats simply excel in the rough for their size, the 41 Apache, the 40 foot Skater, the 30 foot Shadow, the Cougar Vees, and Buzzi's behemoths.
08-12-2008, 03:31 PM
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everyone else... you guys are trying to compare way to many things here with way to many variables without experience...
most of these boats people are naming are all great boats in rough water....
my point is unless you have the balls to buy one and run it in rough water then you just dont know what you are talking about...
with that being said i don't know any of you and don't know your experience .
most of these boats people are naming are all great boats in rough water....
my point is unless you have the balls to buy one and run it in rough water then you just dont know what you are talking about...
with that being said i don't know any of you and don't know your experience .
Unless you know whose posts you are reading, you might not want to assume that they don't know more than you do.
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08-12-2008, 03:37 PM
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I THINK.... we should limit threads like this for people who own or have owned one of the boats they talk about. that way we dont have all these "computer powerboating cowboys" chiming in on something they have no idea about... can anyone guess which boat im rooting for?????
starts with and A.....
starts with and A.....
08-12-2008, 03:43 PM
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stop being so insecure... im sure you have driven some big boats buddy...
but if i wanted to insult you i would have singled you out out done it. i dont beat around the bush
