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02-03-2009, 02:01 AM
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This Is Ben Kramer Son Sending Out For All Your Help.names Like My Father Maid The Powerboating What It Was In The 80s In South Fl And Around The World.but Now Alot Of People I Meet In The Buissness My Family Name Is A Bad Word To Some.like We Care How They Feel.bottom Line Fast Is Fast And Apaches And My Father Were Some Of The Fastest Around.and Hes Been Caged To Long.im Trying To Set Something Up For The Next Worlds In Key West.all Money Maid From This Event Will Go Towards Legale Deffence.if Anyone Has Any Thing They Would Like To Help Or Say Please Contact Me.if We Bring Back The Classics Sport Will Be Classic Again.
02-03-2009, 06:25 AM
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This Is Ben Kramer Son Sending Out For All Your Help.names Like My Father Maid The Powerboating What It Was In The 80s In South Fl And Around The World.but Now Alot Of People I Meet In The Buissness My Family Name Is A Bad Word To Some.like We Care How They Feel.bottom Line Fast Is Fast And Apaches And My Father Were Some Of The Fastest Around.and Hes Been Caged To Long.im Trying To Set Something Up For The Next Worlds In Key West.all Money Maid From This Event Will Go Towards Legale Deffence.if Anyone Has Any Thing They Would Like To Help Or Say Please Contact Me.if We Bring Back The Classics Sport Will Be Classic Again.
I agree the Apaches are amazing boats but not to sure what your father had to do with that. He was an excelent driver must have learned that from running in from the stream in the dark. And he had tons of cash was able to buy into Bobby S,s Apache. Great Racer but he had nothing to do with the famous hulls that were built. Did you father design the 41 footer?
I think you should hold a fundraiser and use the 6 bucks that you raise and take some spelling lessons
If nothing else this thread will be entertaining
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Last edited by oldschoolfan; 02-03-2009 at 08:00 PM. Reason: perhaps i was a bit harsh
02-03-2009, 07:45 AM
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Your "father" as is a punk and always will be a punk. He was not a boat builder he was the money man. Your "father" had D.A. killed.. he was the Man that made powerboating what it was from the 70s to today.
I agree the Apaches are amazing boats but not to sure what your father had to do with that. He was an excelent driver must have learned that from running in from the stream in the dark. And he had tons of cash was able to buy into Bobby S,s Apache. Great Racer but he had nothing to do with the famous hulls that were built. Did you father design the 41 footer?
I think you should hold a fundraiser and use the 6 bucks that you raise and take some spelling lessons
If nothing else this thread will be entertaining
Oldschoolfan
I agree the Apaches are amazing boats but not to sure what your father had to do with that. He was an excelent driver must have learned that from running in from the stream in the dark. And he had tons of cash was able to buy into Bobby S,s Apache. Great Racer but he had nothing to do with the famous hulls that were built. Did you father design the 41 footer?
I think you should hold a fundraiser and use the 6 bucks that you raise and take some spelling lessons
If nothing else this thread will be entertaining
Oldschoolfan
The Kid is trying to get his DAD out of jail,,,thats not going to happen.
But atleast give him an opertunity to talk about it and this has nothing to do with spelling.
Just my 2 c.
Allthough,,,i do think that Ben K. had alot to do with how big the name Apache is today.
To u Kramer Jr. ,,,,i would not wast your or anybody's $ to help your Dad,,,,there is no way they will let him out.
Sorry !!!!
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02-03-2009, 09:22 AM
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Hi Oldschoolfan,,, i agree with you ,,,,but i think the thing with the speeling is very harsh.
The Kid is trying to get his DAD out of jail,,,thats not going to happen.
But atleast give him an opertunity to talk about it and this has nothing to do with spelling.
Just my 2 c.
Allthough,,,i do think that Ben K. had alot to do with how big the name Apache is today.
To u Kramer Jr. ,,,,i would not wast your or anybody's $ to help your Dad,,,,there is no way they will let him out.
Sorry !!!!
The Kid is trying to get his DAD out of jail,,,thats not going to happen.
But atleast give him an opertunity to talk about it and this has nothing to do with spelling.
Just my 2 c.
Allthough,,,i do think that Ben K. had alot to do with how big the name Apache is today.
To u Kramer Jr. ,,,,i would not wast your or anybody's $ to help your Dad,,,,there is no way they will let him out.
Sorry !!!!
Benny was not a boat builder he was a smuggler who was laundering his money he had nothing to do with the design of the boats and Race Headquarters, Inc. rigged the boats a company owned by Bobby. At some point they hired Moore to rig all of the boats i believe.
Sorry if i was harsh on Benny Jr. but his dad had Don Aronow killed. He may not have pulled the trigger but he is just as guilty.
Plus do we actually think this is Ben's kid?
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Daredevil I agree Benny did do alot for the name by winning races. When he and Bobby raced ther were unbeatable he was 1 of the best drivers ever. Oj Simpson was a heisman trophy winner does that make him any less of a bad guy?
Benny was not a boat builder he was a smuggler who was laundering his money he had nothing to do with the design of the boats and Race Headquarters, Inc. rigged the boats a company owned by Bobby. At some point they hired Moore to rig all of the boats i believe.
Sorry if i was harsh on Benny Jr. but his dad had Don Aronow killed. He may not have pulled the trigger but he is just as guilty.
Plus do we actually think this is Ben's kid?
Benny was not a boat builder he was a smuggler who was laundering his money he had nothing to do with the design of the boats and Race Headquarters, Inc. rigged the boats a company owned by Bobby. At some point they hired Moore to rig all of the boats i believe.
Sorry if i was harsh on Benny Jr. but his dad had Don Aronow killed. He may not have pulled the trigger but he is just as guilty.
Plus do we actually think this is Ben's kid?
Agree again ,,,don't know if its bens kid or not,,,and all your saying is ok ,,but if it is Ben's kid then all i was saying don't bash him for what his dad did .
he as a right to be on his dad's side ,,,he probably doesen't even know him or what he all did.
On everything else you are 100 correct.
