Whats with all the Bashing???
06-13-2010, 10:27 AM
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I dont post on here much or have alot of free time to spend on here.It seems lately that there is alot of bashing on here.This kind of stuff will and is driving the professional Marine industry off the site!!!I looked this week and it was Outerlimits,Shogren,and Ron Bender.This really has to stop!!
06-13-2010, 10:31 AM
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I dont post on here much or have alot of free time to spend on here.It seems lately that there is alot of bashing on here.This kind of stuff will and is driving the professional Marine industry off the site!!!I looked this week and it was Outerlimits,Shogren,and Ron Bender.This really has to stop!!
06-13-2010, 10:33 AM
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These message boards give those that are quick to bash a very large audience and the ability to do quite a bit of damage with very little effort on their part. I wonder if these same people will be surprised that there may be some reluctance for dealers, suppliers, engine builders etc. to do business with them in the future?
06-13-2010, 10:39 AM
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JC Perf,
You are dead on, it's crazy. We all work so hard and sometimes you have to make tough decisions in business but to be ripped in world wide format and then have people that know nothing about the topic rip you can be frustrating. Unfortunatly dealers, mfg and other cannot say anything or we get bashed but then when some of the same people put these "bad energy" post up there the same ones that come back and ask for help and act as if they never made the post.
Can we make everyone happy, no but we try in an industry that is down, losing dealers, vendors, etc at record pace. We don't need to hurt the industry more than it has already been affected by economy or other but rather spend "good energy" making it better.
Although not fun and does not feel good I can live with being beat up over not selling someone a boat but don't understand why you get put in the penalty box for not selling something.
Was it blown out of proportion, yes it was. Could have I responded quicker, yes if I had my phone on. Could have the consumer been patient and not involved another family member yes. Could have this same consumer not yelled at my service manager whom is not involved in sales transactions, yes.
We live and certainly learn.
Regards,
Shogren Performance Marine
www.teamshogren.com
You are dead on, it's crazy. We all work so hard and sometimes you have to make tough decisions in business but to be ripped in world wide format and then have people that know nothing about the topic rip you can be frustrating. Unfortunatly dealers, mfg and other cannot say anything or we get bashed but then when some of the same people put these "bad energy" post up there the same ones that come back and ask for help and act as if they never made the post.
Can we make everyone happy, no but we try in an industry that is down, losing dealers, vendors, etc at record pace. We don't need to hurt the industry more than it has already been affected by economy or other but rather spend "good energy" making it better.
Although not fun and does not feel good I can live with being beat up over not selling someone a boat but don't understand why you get put in the penalty box for not selling something.
Was it blown out of proportion, yes it was. Could have I responded quicker, yes if I had my phone on. Could have the consumer been patient and not involved another family member yes. Could have this same consumer not yelled at my service manager whom is not involved in sales transactions, yes.
We live and certainly learn.
Regards,
Shogren Performance Marine
www.teamshogren.com
06-13-2010, 10:44 AM
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JC Perf,
You are dead on, it's crazy. We all work so hard and sometimes you have to make tough decisions in business but to be ripped in world wide format and then have people that know nothing about the topic rip you can be frustrating. Unfortunatly dealers, mfg and other cannot say anything or we get bashed but then when some of the same people put these "bad energy" post up there the same ones that come back and ask for help and act as if they never made the post.
Can we make everyone happy, no but we try in an industry that is down, losing dealers, vendors, etc at record pace. We don't need to hurt the industry more than it has already been affected by economy or other but rather spend "good energy" making it better.
Although not fun and does not feel good I can live with being beat up over not selling someone a boat but don't understand why you get put in the penalty box for not selling something.
Was it blown out of proportion, yes it was. Could have I responded quicker, yes if I had my phone on. Could have the consumer been patient and not involved another family member yes. Could have this same consumer not yelled at my service manager whom is not involved in sales transactions, yes.
We live and certainly learn.
Regards,
Shogren Performance Marine
www.teamshogren.com
You are dead on, it's crazy. We all work so hard and sometimes you have to make tough decisions in business but to be ripped in world wide format and then have people that know nothing about the topic rip you can be frustrating. Unfortunatly dealers, mfg and other cannot say anything or we get bashed but then when some of the same people put these "bad energy" post up there the same ones that come back and ask for help and act as if they never made the post.
Can we make everyone happy, no but we try in an industry that is down, losing dealers, vendors, etc at record pace. We don't need to hurt the industry more than it has already been affected by economy or other but rather spend "good energy" making it better.
Although not fun and does not feel good I can live with being beat up over not selling someone a boat but don't understand why you get put in the penalty box for not selling something.
Was it blown out of proportion, yes it was. Could have I responded quicker, yes if I had my phone on. Could have the consumer been patient and not involved another family member yes. Could have this same consumer not yelled at my service manager whom is not involved in sales transactions, yes.
We live and certainly learn.
Regards,
Shogren Performance Marine
www.teamshogren.com
06-13-2010, 10:45 AM
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Its two - fold, our markethas changed for all involved. Buyers think they can do what and request whatever they feel even if it breaks the rules. Sellers are stuck and are realizing that in order to make a deal they need to bend over backwards to earn.
THere are some businesses - some marine included who are amuine (sp?) to unique business practices of buyers.
also we are in a generation where people who feel that when they have been wronged there is no simmer process to calm down and rethink. They shoot from the hip and in this case (theses cases) they yap about it online.
Grow up people, mature a little. IF you want the boat that bad, put a deposit down. If you need parts put some research in. Dont bash at first whim.
THere are some businesses - some marine included who are amuine (sp?) to unique business practices of buyers.
also we are in a generation where people who feel that when they have been wronged there is no simmer process to calm down and rethink. They shoot from the hip and in this case (theses cases) they yap about it online.
Grow up people, mature a little. IF you want the boat that bad, put a deposit down. If you need parts put some research in. Dont bash at first whim.
06-13-2010, 11:10 AM
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JC Perf,
You are dead on, it's crazy. We all work so hard and sometimes you have to make tough decisions in business but to be ripped in world wide format and then have people that know nothing about the topic rip you can be frustrating. Unfortunatly dealers, mfg and other cannot say anything or we get bashed but then when some of the same people put these "bad energy" post up there the same ones that come back and ask for help and act as if they never made the post.
Can we make everyone happy, no but we try in an industry that is down, losing dealers, vendors, etc at record pace. We don't need to hurt the industry more than it has already been affected by economy or other but rather spend "good energy" making it better.
Although not fun and does not feel good I can live with being beat up over not selling someone a boat but don't understand why you get put in the penalty box for not selling something.
Was it blown out of proportion, yes it was. Could have I responded quicker, yes if I had my phone on. Could have the consumer been patient and not involved another family member yes. Could have this same consumer not yelled at my service manager whom is not involved in sales transactions, yes.
We live and certainly learn.
Regards,
Shogren Performance Marine
www.teamshogren.com
You are dead on, it's crazy. We all work so hard and sometimes you have to make tough decisions in business but to be ripped in world wide format and then have people that know nothing about the topic rip you can be frustrating. Unfortunatly dealers, mfg and other cannot say anything or we get bashed but then when some of the same people put these "bad energy" post up there the same ones that come back and ask for help and act as if they never made the post.
Can we make everyone happy, no but we try in an industry that is down, losing dealers, vendors, etc at record pace. We don't need to hurt the industry more than it has already been affected by economy or other but rather spend "good energy" making it better.
Although not fun and does not feel good I can live with being beat up over not selling someone a boat but don't understand why you get put in the penalty box for not selling something.
Was it blown out of proportion, yes it was. Could have I responded quicker, yes if I had my phone on. Could have the consumer been patient and not involved another family member yes. Could have this same consumer not yelled at my service manager whom is not involved in sales transactions, yes.
We live and certainly learn.
Regards,
Shogren Performance Marine
www.teamshogren.com
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06-13-2010, 11:36 AM
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This forum has been a blessing to this industry for many reasons. One of the reasons is handing a slice of humble pie to those that let their high and mighty ego do and say things that stray from true professionalism. There is nothing in hell wrong with it. Keeps everyone in check.
I wish my industry had such and option to keep people informed and the pros thinking before speaking/typing.
Neil
Last edited by drypipetiger; 06-13-2010 at 11:39 AM.
