Originally Posted by Young Performance

I wish more were like you.

I have read the entire thread and am surprised at some of the comments. People keep commenting about they can get the info for free elsewhere. Can you? Then why are you getting it here? Will you really get the correct info elsewhere? I have been to a bunch of other sites and I am floored at all of the horrible tech advice given. How much is the correct info worth? What if someone gives you some bogus advice and you scatter your engine. I'll bet this site will look a little more attractive then.
There is an unbelievable amount of useful advice here that I would be willing to bet was contributed more by paying members then registered members. By no means am I lumping everyone in the same catagory, but I would bet that more paying members contribute useful info and more registered members ask for help. It is understandable that people just register to ask a few questions. But, I also believe that repeated questions should at some point should warrant a membership to "give back". Where else are you going to get a true experts invaluable advice for free and know that it's correct?
Also, why should the advertisers pay the entire bill? I'm not sure about others, but I find it difficult to put a value on advertising here. I seriously doubt that I get a positive ROI just from my add. I get my ROI from spending hours a day answering questions and giving advice. I highly doubt that someone just sees my add and decides to call me to buy an engine. I would say that I am one of, if the not the most, active engine builders on here given advice and assistance. I'm not doing it to generate business, since the VAST majority of guys I help will never buy anything from me and I know it. I do it because I love what I do and I know what it's like to not be able to afford to pay someone to fix what's broken, everytime it breaks.
I'm here hanging out like everyone else who has a passion for this sport. Only I have to pay over 2K a year to do it.
I'm sure there will be plenty that don't agree with me, that is why I usually don't get involved in these types of threads. Just thought I would throw out an advertisers point of view.
Eddie

Originally Posted by moses0324

this entire post is a fail...which is surprising coming from a paid advertiser.

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

I guess I pay because I feel it is worth it. I enjoy this site, and what it has to offer, check it out most every day. By signing up an spending a few bucks you do get a little more.
I'd go VIP if the T' shirts came in my size, but they don't.

This is much like stopping by the local gin mill on the way home from work, the cocktail will for sure cost you more than making one at home, but you are paying for the atmosphere and being to share time with some friends for a while.

Originally Posted by offshorexcursion

Imagine if facebook charged a fee like OSO, instead of Mark Zuckerburg being a billion air he would be a KA ZILLION AIR!!!

Originally Posted by SS930

No, Mark would be worth dog-sh!t. If everyone HAD to pay to use FB, the vast majority would simply choose to not pay and find another alternative in time. Just like this place... if they suddenly made it a pay only membership structure, the vast majority of people in time would migrate to another forum. SOS, fastboats, or some other forum that doesn't even exist YET. At some point the majority of people that left here would end up at one other location. Believe me there are plenty of other folks out there that would love to have the traffic (and provide a 'free' home for them, just like FB!) Eventually, the people and advertisers that were paying here would stop paying because the traffic and activity would no longer be worth their while... it would be someplace else (that didn't charge the members).

I'm not sure why so many on here fail to see how this works, it's very basic economics! It's simply a shift in the supply/demand curve. I'm also very much amazed and amused so many paying members here think so much more of themselves and others that choose to add extra pocket lining to the owners pockets. Internet forums do not need to charge the content providers for them to be a quality and successful forum... it's been proven over and over. In fact, pay only structures have for the most part failed for the reasons mentioned above. If some people feel like giving the forum owners money, knock yourself out, but please dont think you're carrying the folks that dont!

Originally Posted by catastrophe

I'm also very much amazed and amused so many paying members here think so much more of themselves and others that choose to add extra pocket lining to the owners pockets.

I read back a bit and didnt see where anyone thought more of themselves because they were paying members.

What I read when I go back and look is that those that are paying are doing so as a thank you for havin a place to hang and arent concerning themselves with the math re IBs profitability nor the " who is who" in value with regards to internet forums.

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

Out of post context, what part did I miss here? Freeloader is where it's at these days? Forgive me!

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

Pay if you want, don't pay if you don't want to, just don't get all up and righteous on those that feel it's worth the money and see some value in this site.

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

Your value added is marginal at best.

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

Far as what I have at home, for sure not one of your closet queens, but it's honest and real. I surely don't view her the same as you do most of yours. Don't think I could sink that low.

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

P.S I win! Reaction is right on target!

Originally Posted by RaggedEdge

Must be a slow night at the hospital. Do you even have this chit at home? Or do you just waste your employers time and money on here?