When is fast too fast?
04-05-2011, 06:58 PM
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This thread echoes sentiments that I have held for years......
Fast boat accidents will doom fast boats eventually.
I have built, raced, sold, collected, and tested....just about every type of high performance powerboat imagineable.
My opinions are simple.....
1. Race boats (regardless of "pleasure" designations) belong on race courses with race control and safety procedures in effect.
2. Poker Runs need speed limits and strict safety rules. However, racing only belongs on a race course (see 1 above) and definitely without "civilians" on board.
3. I have seen people killed in high speed boating accidents at 50 mph and above. The faster you go on water the harder and more dangerous it gets, and the impacts go up exponentially (with both water and cockpit/hull/deck contact).
4. Nobody should drive a "fast boat" (use your own definition)without training and experience. The faster you go the more training and experience you need......
5. Money can't buy talent or common sense...but it can buy horsepower, fancy paint, state of the art laminates, party girls, and alcohol. Those ingredients when mixed together with a big ego and a pecker length issue, can, and do, create a lethal cocktail.
6. A truly fast boat is an impressive thing. Owning one is not necessarily admirable. Knowing how to handle a water borne rocket is the issue (JT, Stevie, Joey I, the Geico boys, Michael Seebold, and a (very) few other top guys can actually lay claim to this). There are far more fast boats than drivers qualified to handle them.
7. This has nothing to do with so called "freedoms". It's simply about maturity and common sense. If you run into me with your 150 mph rice burner on the parkway.... your lame*ss, ignorant, helmet less "freedom" might cost me my life and my "freedom" at the same time. To quote Billy Joel on the subject.......
"And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
And his honor is pure and his courage is well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell"
When you have buried as many friends as I have in boat racing accidents...your petty lines in the sand will obviously blow away, but the scars in those left behind from those losses might as well be cast in ageless stone...for they last and hurt forever.
Nuff said...
T2x
Fast boat accidents will doom fast boats eventually.
I have built, raced, sold, collected, and tested....just about every type of high performance powerboat imagineable.
My opinions are simple.....
1. Race boats (regardless of "pleasure" designations) belong on race courses with race control and safety procedures in effect.
2. Poker Runs need speed limits and strict safety rules. However, racing only belongs on a race course (see 1 above) and definitely without "civilians" on board.
3. I have seen people killed in high speed boating accidents at 50 mph and above. The faster you go on water the harder and more dangerous it gets, and the impacts go up exponentially (with both water and cockpit/hull/deck contact).
4. Nobody should drive a "fast boat" (use your own definition)without training and experience. The faster you go the more training and experience you need......
5. Money can't buy talent or common sense...but it can buy horsepower, fancy paint, state of the art laminates, party girls, and alcohol. Those ingredients when mixed together with a big ego and a pecker length issue, can, and do, create a lethal cocktail.
6. A truly fast boat is an impressive thing. Owning one is not necessarily admirable. Knowing how to handle a water borne rocket is the issue (JT, Stevie, Joey I, the Geico boys, Michael Seebold, and a (very) few other top guys can actually lay claim to this). There are far more fast boats than drivers qualified to handle them.
7. This has nothing to do with so called "freedoms". It's simply about maturity and common sense. If you run into me with your 150 mph rice burner on the parkway.... your lame*ss, ignorant, helmet less "freedom" might cost me my life and my "freedom" at the same time. To quote Billy Joel on the subject.......
"And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
And his honor is pure and his courage is well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell"
When you have buried as many friends as I have in boat racing accidents...your petty lines in the sand will obviously blow away, but the scars in those left behind from those losses might as well be cast in ageless stone...for they last and hurt forever.
Nuff said...
T2x
Peker lenght then I'm staying far from you when I'm out on the water
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04-05-2011, 09:46 PM
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All kidding aside ego& booze bad mix as far as sue a builder if you hurt or damage you or your boat or some one else after you over power it
They put a lot of things to keep you from going faster than the hull can handle!Fact the rest is up to the captain or driver /owner to know the boats pros&cons&safe speed
They put a lot of things to keep you from going faster than the hull can handle!Fact the rest is up to the captain or driver /owner to know the boats pros&cons&safe speed
04-06-2011, 12:24 PM
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04-07-2011, 12:35 AM
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04-07-2011, 09:07 AM
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This thread echoes sentiments that I have held for years......
Fast boat accidents will doom fast boats eventually.
I have built, raced, sold, collected, and tested....just about every type of high performance powerboat imagineable.
My opinions are simple.....
1. Race boats (regardless of "pleasure" designations) belong on race courses with race control and safety procedures in effect.
2. Poker Runs need speed limits and strict safety rules. However, racing only belongs on a race course (see 1 above) and definitely without "civilians" on board.
3. I have seen people killed in high speed boating accidents at 50 mph and above. The faster you go on water the harder and more dangerous it gets, and the impacts go up exponentially (with both water and cockpit/hull/deck contact).
4. Nobody should drive a "fast boat" (use your own definition)without training and experience. The faster you go the more training and experience you need......
5. Money can't buy talent or common sense...but it can buy horsepower, fancy paint, state of the art laminates, party girls, and alcohol. Those ingredients when mixed together with a big ego and a pecker length issue, can, and do, create a lethal cocktail.
6. A truly fast boat is an impressive thing. Owning one is not necessarily admirable. Knowing how to handle a water borne rocket is the issue (JT, Stevie, Joey I, the Geico boys, Michael Seebold, and a (very) few other top guys can actually lay claim to this). There are far more fast boats than drivers qualified to handle them.
7. This has nothing to do with so called "freedoms". It's simply about maturity and common sense. If you run into me with your 150 mph rice burner on the parkway.... your lame*ss, ignorant, helmet less "freedom" might cost me my life and my "freedom" at the same time. To quote Billy Joel on the subject.......
"And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
And his honor is pure and his courage is well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell"
When you have buried as many friends as I have in boat racing accidents...your petty lines in the sand will obviously blow away, but the scars in those left behind from those losses might as well be cast in ageless stone...for they last and hurt forever.
Nuff said...
T2x
Fast boat accidents will doom fast boats eventually.
I have built, raced, sold, collected, and tested....just about every type of high performance powerboat imagineable.
My opinions are simple.....
1. Race boats (regardless of "pleasure" designations) belong on race courses with race control and safety procedures in effect.
2. Poker Runs need speed limits and strict safety rules. However, racing only belongs on a race course (see 1 above) and definitely without "civilians" on board.
3. I have seen people killed in high speed boating accidents at 50 mph and above. The faster you go on water the harder and more dangerous it gets, and the impacts go up exponentially (with both water and cockpit/hull/deck contact).
4. Nobody should drive a "fast boat" (use your own definition)without training and experience. The faster you go the more training and experience you need......
5. Money can't buy talent or common sense...but it can buy horsepower, fancy paint, state of the art laminates, party girls, and alcohol. Those ingredients when mixed together with a big ego and a pecker length issue, can, and do, create a lethal cocktail.
6. A truly fast boat is an impressive thing. Owning one is not necessarily admirable. Knowing how to handle a water borne rocket is the issue (JT, Stevie, Joey I, the Geico boys, Michael Seebold, and a (very) few other top guys can actually lay claim to this). There are far more fast boats than drivers qualified to handle them.
7. This has nothing to do with so called "freedoms". It's simply about maturity and common sense. If you run into me with your 150 mph rice burner on the parkway.... your lame*ss, ignorant, helmet less "freedom" might cost me my life and my "freedom" at the same time. To quote Billy Joel on the subject.......
"And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
And his honor is pure and his courage is well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell"
When you have buried as many friends as I have in boat racing accidents...your petty lines in the sand will obviously blow away, but the scars in those left behind from those losses might as well be cast in ageless stone...for they last and hurt forever.
Nuff said...
T2x
+1 - this is about as good a summary of the issue as I have ever read.
05-02-2011, 06:48 AM
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