Doc Jansen & Forehand cheating again
05-19-2011, 07:42 AM
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You dont get it. How many times do you penalize a repeat offender before you suspend or expell him? This goes way beyond cheating. Its about pure arrogance. This team thinks they're above the rest because they have deep pockets.
Win at all costs!
Randy (Typhoon) ...I applaud your good sportsmanship and wanting to be proffessional about this. But you were the victim my friend. Why should this guy get a pass?
Win at all costs!
Randy (Typhoon) ...I applaud your good sportsmanship and wanting to be proffessional about this. But you were the victim my friend. Why should this guy get a pass?
Bruce, your right I don't get it, I don't know Doc's history and who has gotten screwed, as a fan I always enjoyed watching him race. From what you say, pull the plug on Doc and his Team and lets get on with racing, with one or two boats less. The only ones that should be chiming in on this issue is the Org. and they should deal with it in an expeditious way and the one or ones who were affected by the cheating should have the wrong done to them righted. As a race fan, the last thing I want to hear or read about is someone who got caught cheating. Deal with it in private as it is really not good for the sport and I don't want to hear all the negative Crap about Reggie Fountain, who has accomplished more in boat racing and building then anyone else. I don't know Reggie Fountain or any of his family but to me he is an icon of the sport who deserves our respect. I do know that he has done more for the sport in the last decade then just about anyone with teh exception of John Haggin and has more talent and skills then any of the Reggie bashers will ever have.
05-19-2011, 09:29 PM
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05-20-2011, 04:21 PM
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It is a big deal that a team got caught cheating. TWICE
Does it surprise any of you that a fountain was caught cheating at a boat race? They are always suspected and sometimes caught.
If any of you fiollowed the SVL drama last year, the V Lite class was heading in a possitive direction. Boat counts were coming up, competition was close and most of all we were all friends. We all helped each other. And would not consider cheating. Then, one week before the first race of the season, a new boat comes along. (Fountain) They Did not go through standard procedure with the tech commitee, 90 days prior to first race. This was a one off boat. No drawings or specs were submitted to OSS for approval. But OSS deemed him legal to race. the owner would threaten a lawsuit if anyone got near his boat, including tech inspectors. He felt he was above everyone else and did not have to follow standard procedures. After that, the class fell divided and boat count dropped off. I must say in my opinion, Brian Foreskin and Doc Janssen are two of the most arrogant people I have ever had the displeasure of racing with. We Were warned repeatedly, not to let this boat run with us, but we did any way and look what happened.
With regards to Biloxi. A great site by the way. I feel bad for them. But in my opinion the poor turnout is the fault of OSS. They had no schedule until late winter, when the other two orgs had their schedules posted. the teams decided that they would make their schedules with what was already published. They didnt know if OSS would even post a schedule other than Biloxi. Last year, we had 9 boats in our class. Thats all they had total this year.
So yes... you can call it a race if only 11 boats show, but they would need to be in the same class.
Does it surprise any of you that a fountain was caught cheating at a boat race? They are always suspected and sometimes caught.
If any of you fiollowed the SVL drama last year, the V Lite class was heading in a possitive direction. Boat counts were coming up, competition was close and most of all we were all friends. We all helped each other. And would not consider cheating. Then, one week before the first race of the season, a new boat comes along. (Fountain) They Did not go through standard procedure with the tech commitee, 90 days prior to first race. This was a one off boat. No drawings or specs were submitted to OSS for approval. But OSS deemed him legal to race. the owner would threaten a lawsuit if anyone got near his boat, including tech inspectors. He felt he was above everyone else and did not have to follow standard procedures. After that, the class fell divided and boat count dropped off. I must say in my opinion, Brian Foreskin and Doc Janssen are two of the most arrogant people I have ever had the displeasure of racing with. We Were warned repeatedly, not to let this boat run with us, but we did any way and look what happened.
With regards to Biloxi. A great site by the way. I feel bad for them. But in my opinion the poor turnout is the fault of OSS. They had no schedule until late winter, when the other two orgs had their schedules posted. the teams decided that they would make their schedules with what was already published. They didnt know if OSS would even post a schedule other than Biloxi. Last year, we had 9 boats in our class. Thats all they had total this year.
So yes... you can call it a race if only 11 boats show, but they would need to be in the same class.
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05-20-2011, 04:22 PM
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Well how about that ?
What great waste of my time then ...
What great waste of my time then ...
05-20-2011, 04:23 PM
#108
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You dont get it. How many times do you penalize a repeat offender before you suspend or expell him? This goes way beyond cheating. Its about pure arrogance. This team thinks they're above the rest because they have deep pockets.
Win at all costs!
Randy (Typhoon) ...I applaud your good sportsmanship and wanting to be proffessional about this. But you were the victim my friend. Why should this guy get a pass?
Win at all costs!
Randy (Typhoon) ...I applaud your good sportsmanship and wanting to be proffessional about this. But you were the victim my friend. Why should this guy get a pass?
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05-20-2011, 06:15 PM
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They got CAUGHT cheating a few times. How many times did they NOT GET CAUGHT? LOTS.................
And as for deep pockets..... who, Fountain? I dont think so
And as for deep pockets..... who, Fountain? I dont think so
05-20-2011, 07:18 PM
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Three hour drive to watch 9 boats ( I do appreciate their effort) but I doubt I'm going back to Biloxi to watch a race unless they guarantee a showing. Anybody really think that the spectators were happy? No! Biloxi is super for viewing from all the casinos parking decks that cater to the race. It's a shame, because the past races were great.
