Doc Jansen & Forehand cheating again
05-17-2011, 06:17 PM
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I was at the races boring myself to tears, and if anyone cheated, at least that would have made it exciting.
The truth is that there was no race...11 boats, two of them broke, and two drivers were in two boats each that could not run at the same time....
Soooo, it was like watching paint dry
From what I understand the boat in question was set - up for P-1 on Saturday, but the organizers begged everyone to run on Sunday too so that there would be a few boats on the anemic race course....
From my perspective all the race teams that showed up, spent lots of time money and energy to race, should be applauded for doing their best to put on a show for the spectators...
The truth is that there was no race...11 boats, two of them broke, and two drivers were in two boats each that could not run at the same time....
Soooo, it was like watching paint dry
From what I understand the boat in question was set - up for P-1 on Saturday, but the organizers begged everyone to run on Sunday too so that there would be a few boats on the anemic race course....
From my perspective all the race teams that showed up, spent lots of time money and energy to race, should be applauded for doing their best to put on a show for the spectators...
05-17-2011, 06:33 PM
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05-17-2011, 06:47 PM
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This kind of stuff is why the poker runs have become more popular than the races in KW, in my opinion. Nobody really cares about the racing classes and truthfully the poker runners put on a better show the day they roll into town.
It's cool to go to the pits and see all the hardware, but it's better to walk the docks at the Galleon and spectate there.
It's cool to go to the pits and see all the hardware, but it's better to walk the docks at the Galleon and spectate there.
05-17-2011, 07:01 PM
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Your knee deep in it Zipper, Jerry and I ran Marks boat the other day after a few beers and ran 94.6. Jerry can't see, and I was drunk. Go figure. I can't spell to well either. I bet it will run better in some chop. Jeff Hose "ME", down?
05-17-2011, 07:29 PM
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This kind of stuff is why the poker runs have become more popular than the races in KW, in my opinion. Nobody really cares about the racing classes and truthfully the poker runners put on a better show the day they roll into town.
It's cool to go to the pits and see all the hardware, but it's better to walk the docks at the Galleon and spectate there.
It's cool to go to the pits and see all the hardware, but it's better to walk the docks at the Galleon and spectate there.
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05-17-2011, 08:40 PM
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Probably one of the biggest reasons the organizations would not come together.
How would you merge a PAID STAFF with a VOLUNTEER STAFF ???
If the PAID STAFF was asked to help out by working as VOLUNTEERS and give up their pay check, what do you think the response would be ?
This is my assumption that the organizations are still being run as they have in the past.
Personally, I haven't been keeping up with what has been happening in the Offshore World Politics.
Only reason I knew there was an OSS Race coming up was because I was asked to submit an image for the Race Program.
BTW, Can someone scan a copy of the program so I can see how it turned out ?
P.S.
When the property you are to use for your upcoming race is to close on a real estate deal the weekend of your event, it is certain changes would need to be made. I don't see how that can be any organizations fault for rescheduling the event to another time . Just a thought !
How would you merge a PAID STAFF with a VOLUNTEER STAFF ???
If the PAID STAFF was asked to help out by working as VOLUNTEERS and give up their pay check, what do you think the response would be ?
This is my assumption that the organizations are still being run as they have in the past.
Personally, I haven't been keeping up with what has been happening in the Offshore World Politics.
Only reason I knew there was an OSS Race coming up was because I was asked to submit an image for the Race Program.
BTW, Can someone scan a copy of the program so I can see how it turned out ?
P.S.
When the property you are to use for your upcoming race is to close on a real estate deal the weekend of your event, it is certain changes would need to be made. I don't see how that can be any organizations fault for rescheduling the event to another time . Just a thought !
05-17-2011, 10:25 PM
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We have all this attention on the thread, and the pages are starting to roll into the double digits on the cheating subject, and as I can denounce cheating, and don't respect it in any form, I think that we could turn this thread around to push the sport, and take all those, including myself who haven't been the best at following every race, and find ways we can promote.
Even as I read this thread, I cant help but think, that all of the great minds we have on this board, and what ideas and experiences we could generate to help push powerboating as a whole back into the spotlight.
Key West Nationals is something that I do with my friends every year now, and I think its in part because of the poker run that's included, as well as the extra attention and detail put into that event because it is a championship event, if we could start promoting that kind of attention and following, and even get each race event to have more of the social and party atmosphere as our poker runs, I bet we could sell one hell of a lot more boats, as well as have one heck of a lot more fun together,, because that's what I feel it should be about. Regardless of the boat you run, or the team you cheer for.
Even as I read this thread, I cant help but think, that all of the great minds we have on this board, and what ideas and experiences we could generate to help push powerboating as a whole back into the spotlight.
Key West Nationals is something that I do with my friends every year now, and I think its in part because of the poker run that's included, as well as the extra attention and detail put into that event because it is a championship event, if we could start promoting that kind of attention and following, and even get each race event to have more of the social and party atmosphere as our poker runs, I bet we could sell one hell of a lot more boats, as well as have one heck of a lot more fun together,, because that's what I feel it should be about. Regardless of the boat you run, or the team you cheer for.
05-18-2011, 01:45 AM
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I seem to remember the cheating that went in back in his days as well. Remember A Class and B Class and some in the F1 and F2 classes. Guys were waiting for the other guys to leave the dock before they started their engine(s). And even the banning of small builders in the Factory Classes so that the larger builder(s) would have an easier advantage. Some guys running water ballast tanks. Water was only in the boat during weigh-in and weigh-out.
Even back then, the sanctioning bodies couldn't get along. Allweiss and Carbonell only had 1 or 2 Key West Races together. It wasn't all puppy dogs and cotton candy back then. It had its good points and its bad points. At the start, it had some dot com money involved and, money wise, things were better than they are now.
Even back then, the sanctioning bodies couldn't get along. Allweiss and Carbonell only had 1 or 2 Key West Races together. It wasn't all puppy dogs and cotton candy back then. It had its good points and its bad points. At the start, it had some dot com money involved and, money wise, things were better than they are now.
05-18-2011, 02:24 AM
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Thank You for the kind words, and repairing mine! We are all from different backgrounds , but share a common interest in one great hobby, helping each other in the spirit of that hobby is what counts the most!
