There is a gap in the market which has never been filled...
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Stumbled on this older thread by mistake, but found it thought provocative. If money wasn't an object this slightly updated design of Sonny Levi's old classic is of course very attractive. Mr. Levi's son Martin and a couple of his friends brought this to market a few years back. The quality of the boat and the attention to detail is mighty impressive. The seaworthiness is legendary and the performance leaves nothing to be desired. She is trailerable, but a decent size tow vehicle is required.
It's time for me to snap out of it and be a little more realistic. The truth is that due to the manufacturing cost of a new boat, that meets the majority of the criteria that has been mentioned earlier in this thread, it is very unlikely that the practical boater who is after this type of boat will at this time buy a new boat period. What I find more interesting is to see some more descriptions by prospective buyers and current owners who will/have update(d) a certain boat model as far as performance, comfort or any other features that are at the core of this puzzling gap in the market.
Video of Corsair Classic 28 by Levi Boat Company:
http://youtu.be/PTCOMnHzpCw
Corsair Classic 28 info. link:
http://www.leviboats.com/corsair-classic.php
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Here are a few more boats that might fit the bill? Let's see some more and what You'd like to do to them.
![](http://www.iboats.com/sites/northstar/site_page_11197/images/l_198925sonicmg11-10004.jpg)
![](http://www.xplodepowerboats.com/classifieds/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/5675_main.jpg)
![](http://www.bananaboatco.com/ph-bc001.jpg)
![](http://www.bananaboatco.com/ph-show007.jpg)
![](http://www.magnummarine.com/images/legendary/004%201972%20Brochure%20Magnum%2025.jpg)
It's time for me to snap out of it and be a little more realistic. The truth is that due to the manufacturing cost of a new boat, that meets the majority of the criteria that has been mentioned earlier in this thread, it is very unlikely that the practical boater who is after this type of boat will at this time buy a new boat period. What I find more interesting is to see some more descriptions by prospective buyers and current owners who will/have update(d) a certain boat model as far as performance, comfort or any other features that are at the core of this puzzling gap in the market.
Video of Corsair Classic 28 by Levi Boat Company:
http://youtu.be/PTCOMnHzpCw
Corsair Classic 28 info. link:
http://www.leviboats.com/corsair-classic.php
Here are a few more boats that might fit the bill? Let's see some more and what You'd like to do to them.
![](http://www.iboats.com/sites/northstar/site_page_11197/images/l_198925sonicmg11-10004.jpg)
![](http://www.xplodepowerboats.com/classifieds/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/5675_main.jpg)
![](http://www.bananaboatco.com/ph-bc001.jpg)
![](http://www.bananaboatco.com/ph-show007.jpg)
![](http://www.magnummarine.com/images/legendary/004%201972%20Brochure%20Magnum%2025.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Dogsharks/Lancer/R0012491.jpg)
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This fits the bill too 47 wellcraft Arneson AS7s, yes please
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqjTcDKqoxY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqjTcDKqoxY
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This fits the bill for me.........generator, microwave, stove, AC/heat and bathroom space for her........454 mag's and thru-hull exhaust for me ![Cool](/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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This fits the bill too 47 wellcraft Arneson AS7s, yes please
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqjTcDKqoxY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqjTcDKqoxY
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Just happened upon this thread while researching early Bertrams, Magnum 27's (with salon-was saloon in the US until prohibition 😉
, and anything else I could find that will get me across Buzzards Bay, the islands, and around the cape on weekends. Initially, I started with wooden boats of the era first pictured because there are so few in this country. Eventually, I came upon OSO and began doing more research on the Americans and found Hand, Hunt, and a few others.
I don't want to sail (too effing slow) but, as some have pointed out previously in this thread, NOBODY seems to have done decent performace with accomodations after about 1990 with true OFFSHORE capability while also being efficient until you hit the halo designs of Levi, Magnum, and other Med-yachts.
Now going to sift through all the lovely details you guys (the true experts) have provided while waiting for my next appointment.
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I don't want to sail (too effing slow) but, as some have pointed out previously in this thread, NOBODY seems to have done decent performace with accomodations after about 1990 with true OFFSHORE capability while also being efficient until you hit the halo designs of Levi, Magnum, and other Med-yachts.
Now going to sift through all the lovely details you guys (the true experts) have provided while waiting for my next appointment.
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Zurn makes a 60 mph 50' day boat
Zurn 50 Rolls Royce Jet Driven Motor Boat. Luxurious high performance. Classic New England style.
Midnight is building a 60' performance yacht - 60' Pied-A-Mer - Midnight Express
Magnum's can be built custom as well.
A few similar boats have been built but al have been custom.
I have a design for a 65mph 44' cabin cruiser. There's not much market for it though
Zurn 50 Rolls Royce Jet Driven Motor Boat. Luxurious high performance. Classic New England style.
Midnight is building a 60' performance yacht - 60' Pied-A-Mer - Midnight Express
Magnum's can be built custom as well.
A few similar boats have been built but al have been custom.
I have a design for a 65mph 44' cabin cruiser. There's not much market for it though
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Interesting. One would think a performance pocket cruiser (30-35 feet) or similar would hit the spot.
What is your 44 like and why do you say not much of a market? Looks like boats and real estate are hot right now.
What is your 44 like and why do you say not much of a market? Looks like boats and real estate are hot right now.
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Old thread but that's ok, anything about boats is still current!
Luxury boats are too expensive, performance boats are also over the top. Put enough power in a boat with all the extras (and weight) to make it go fast you are combining two huge expenses to make one 'mega expense'.
The 44' mentioned above might be sensational but I'll bet it would be over 1 million bucks and it's a tough market. Try selling one from a line drawing or a computer image, its not easy, if you invest the money and build one, the first buyer will come along and say "I'll order one, but I want bigger engines, different colors and can you alter the layout to a two stateroom.........." That's ok if you plan on holding a demo boat but it's a big investment from a manufacturer, especially a custom builder.
Very difficult market to crack.
My 2 cents.
RR
Luxury boats are too expensive, performance boats are also over the top. Put enough power in a boat with all the extras (and weight) to make it go fast you are combining two huge expenses to make one 'mega expense'.
The 44' mentioned above might be sensational but I'll bet it would be over 1 million bucks and it's a tough market. Try selling one from a line drawing or a computer image, its not easy, if you invest the money and build one, the first buyer will come along and say "I'll order one, but I want bigger engines, different colors and can you alter the layout to a two stateroom.........." That's ok if you plan on holding a demo boat but it's a big investment from a manufacturer, especially a custom builder.
Very difficult market to crack.
My 2 cents.
RR
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