Sorry to see the DomZ thread go
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Hey guys,
I did write the request to delete the thread exactly as posted, problem is that once I posted the thread was deleted very quickly along with my request to do so. That thread was over 18,000 hits and 450 replies and was not doing anything to help me or me getting my boat. Figured according to the numbers anyone that needed to see it did.
The boat has not been sitting down there anymore, in the last few weeks Pantera has dumped allot of $$$ and time into the project on there own, I am happy to say that all of the rigging, swim platform, interior, dash and cabin are all now complete. The second transome plate is installed and should have the second 525 in and boat floating by the end of Oct. I am not happy that this has taken so long but I must say that these last few weeks has made me feel much better about Pantera, they have shown me that they are still getting up and going to work every day.
As earlier stated, the only thing I will be pissed about is if Jo is off on his projection on the speed with the twin 525's, and yes I agree, if your going to buy a boat like this better have a company gas card, or stay on the porch.
Thanks All
Sonny B.
I did write the request to delete the thread exactly as posted, problem is that once I posted the thread was deleted very quickly along with my request to do so. That thread was over 18,000 hits and 450 replies and was not doing anything to help me or me getting my boat. Figured according to the numbers anyone that needed to see it did.
The boat has not been sitting down there anymore, in the last few weeks Pantera has dumped allot of $$$ and time into the project on there own, I am happy to say that all of the rigging, swim platform, interior, dash and cabin are all now complete. The second transome plate is installed and should have the second 525 in and boat floating by the end of Oct. I am not happy that this has taken so long but I must say that these last few weeks has made me feel much better about Pantera, they have shown me that they are still getting up and going to work every day.
As earlier stated, the only thing I will be pissed about is if Jo is off on his projection on the speed with the twin 525's, and yes I agree, if your going to buy a boat like this better have a company gas card, or stay on the porch.
Thanks All
Sonny B.
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Originally Posted by speed buff
otis311, sonny did post asking for you to remove the thread i read it before it was deleted.i give pantera credit for not giving up like a few other south florida manufactures and boat dealers that have done recentley in these tough times. they have delivered quite a few boats in the last couple of months and seem to be turning things around.i think sonny had posted that he would be down picking up his boat next month since he had decided on a few new upgrades on his last post.i wish pantera luck in very tough economic times. they are fighters and a great family !!! robert
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OK, I missed that thread. I would have deleted it out of respect for Sonny. But that doesnt change how I feel about Pantara's business practices at all. Potential customers must know what they are up against.
I dont doubt that Jo and Pepe are great people. I have heard so many people say good things about them, It tells me that they cant be all that bad. I really do hope all turns out well for them. Ive stated this many times before. They build a great product....It just takes them way to long.
I dont doubt that Jo and Pepe are great people. I have heard so many people say good things about them, It tells me that they cant be all that bad. I really do hope all turns out well for them. Ive stated this many times before. They build a great product....It just takes them way to long.
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Bob,
A few boats did fall behind due to the price they were sold which in turn was our fault and I am a big boy to admit it. Customers want to add extra items that cost big $$$ into their deals and not pay extra $$$ for it. Many times we put extra work and options into each boat and not charge for it because we want the best product in our customers hands.
As of a few months ago I have had to raise our prices a bit to cover additional costs in materials and labor which in turn will expedite turn around time. We put way to much quality into our boats and were not charging enough for it. Obviously having 2 terrible accidents at the end of 2003 did not help either. We are certainly making changes from our mistakes and will not give up. If there is one thing that no one can say is that we do not cut corners on any boat and will not sacrafice our quality.We will put Sonny's boat behind us next month and move forward with a new positive direction.
I am proud that my Family and I are still here hammering away in this tough business after 30 years.I know you got screwed in the National Marine deal and now have some type of agenda to warn people in the industry.
That is all I have to say in this matter. Sonny will be one happy customer when I hammer the throttles with him out in the Ocean.
Sonny 95 MPH is for real.
Like our customers always tell us : I love my Pantera !
JO - Pantera Boats
A few boats did fall behind due to the price they were sold which in turn was our fault and I am a big boy to admit it. Customers want to add extra items that cost big $$$ into their deals and not pay extra $$$ for it. Many times we put extra work and options into each boat and not charge for it because we want the best product in our customers hands.
As of a few months ago I have had to raise our prices a bit to cover additional costs in materials and labor which in turn will expedite turn around time. We put way to much quality into our boats and were not charging enough for it. Obviously having 2 terrible accidents at the end of 2003 did not help either. We are certainly making changes from our mistakes and will not give up. If there is one thing that no one can say is that we do not cut corners on any boat and will not sacrafice our quality.We will put Sonny's boat behind us next month and move forward with a new positive direction.
I am proud that my Family and I are still here hammering away in this tough business after 30 years.I know you got screwed in the National Marine deal and now have some type of agenda to warn people in the industry.
That is all I have to say in this matter. Sonny will be one happy customer when I hammer the throttles with him out in the Ocean.
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Like our customers always tell us : I love my Pantera !
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JO - Pantera Boats
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the new domz thread??? Jo is right inflation probably has occurred since the boats were sold, like milk costing a nickel gas costing a quarter etc. as for speedy buffer lets name some boat builders in south Florida that have folded lately. economics 101 states, work= pay. my two cents now i will abstain for rebuttal
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS
Bob,
A few boats did fall behind due to the price they were sold which in turn was our fault and I am a big boy to admit it. Customers want to add extra items that cost big $$$ into their deals and not pay extra $$$ for it. Many times we put extra work and options into each boat and not charge for it because we want the best product in our customers hands.
As of a few months ago I have had to raise our prices a bit to cover additional costs in materials and labor which in turn will expedite turn around time. We put way to much quality into our boats and were not charging enough for it. Obviously having 2 terrible accidents at the end of 2003 did not help either. We are certainly making changes from our mistakes and will not give up. If there is one thing that no one can say is that we do not cut corners on any boat and will not sacrafice our quality.We will put Sonny's boat behind us next month and move forward with a new positive direction.
I am proud that my Family and I are still here hammering away in this tough business after 30 years.I know you got screwed in the National Marine deal and now have some type of agenda to warn people in the industry.
That is all I have to say in this matter. Sonny will be one happy customer when I hammer the throttles with him out in the Ocean.
Sonny 95 MPH is for real.
Like our customers always tell us : I love my Pantera !
JO - Pantera Boats
A few boats did fall behind due to the price they were sold which in turn was our fault and I am a big boy to admit it. Customers want to add extra items that cost big $$$ into their deals and not pay extra $$$ for it. Many times we put extra work and options into each boat and not charge for it because we want the best product in our customers hands.
As of a few months ago I have had to raise our prices a bit to cover additional costs in materials and labor which in turn will expedite turn around time. We put way to much quality into our boats and were not charging enough for it. Obviously having 2 terrible accidents at the end of 2003 did not help either. We are certainly making changes from our mistakes and will not give up. If there is one thing that no one can say is that we do not cut corners on any boat and will not sacrafice our quality.We will put Sonny's boat behind us next month and move forward with a new positive direction.
I am proud that my Family and I are still here hammering away in this tough business after 30 years.I know you got screwed in the National Marine deal and now have some type of agenda to warn people in the industry.
That is all I have to say in this matter. Sonny will be one happy customer when I hammer the throttles with him out in the Ocean.
![Stick Out Tongue](/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
![Cool](/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
Like our customers always tell us : I love my Pantera !
![Drink](/forums/images/smilies/drink.gif)
JO - Pantera Boats
Like I always said, I love my Cigarette, but them Pantara's aint bad either
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Originally Posted by BigDadys93x
A wise man once said... If you can afford the boat then you can afford the gas!!
If your gonna play you gotta pay!!
If your gonna play you gotta pay!!
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