Fountain @ LOTO passengers injured in near rollover
09-04-2012, 04:02 PM
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There's a big difference in a "professional" driver, piloting a "race" boat on a controlled course and a dude obviously confused, hopelessly under prepared, driving a "pleasure" boat in an open area with other crafts going in all directions, with innocent unprepared passengers onboard. Not to slam the guy, I think that he did that enough to himself, but maybe he needs to stick to "professional" racing.... Just my take.
A speedy recovery to him and all his passengers. So glad it wasn't worse than it was.
A speedy recovery to him and all his passengers. So glad it wasn't worse than it was.
09-04-2012, 04:18 PM
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BTW - has anyone listend to this whole broadcast? Let's see #1 - Greg Olson wins shootout, but only because My Way crashes (picture of broken My Way), #2 - little girl drowns, #3 - this video, #4 - guy dies after he drives into a tree ... (I didn't go any further). Quite the good news station, don't you think??
09-04-2012, 04:38 PM
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09-04-2012, 04:49 PM
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Those of you who are commenting on the LOTO waves have no clue if you compare it to open water and the cruiser waves do cause a problem but not if your not stupid about it.
This only happens a couple times each year at the lake and it is when you have 2000 boats going every direction all in about an hour’s time frame and then what made it worse was that everyone left at the same time due to rain coming in.
I have been on Lake Michigan when it got rough and on the Mediterranean see when it was rough but they were not the same thing. Not saying that this was worse but just that it is different.
This only happens a couple times each year at the lake and it is when you have 2000 boats going every direction all in about an hour’s time frame and then what made it worse was that everyone left at the same time due to rain coming in.
I have been on Lake Michigan when it got rough and on the Mediterranean see when it was rough but they were not the same thing. Not saying that this was worse but just that it is different.
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Bad deal for sure.. Aside from some very violent and bizarre throttling, you can see at the beginning of the video him dropping the starboard side tab down to balance the boat.. Between that tab on the one side most likely being down further then the other, and being late to the party on all accounts with the throttles.. (On in the air, and off in the water it looks like on the 2nd set) he Just tripped the boat up, and when the boats not happy it will tell you.. He's lucky the boat let them off that easy, because it could've been a lot worse.
Hope they have a speedy recovery.. And being a race boat driver means exactly zero to me. The difference between everyone in this thread and a race boat driver is nothing.. Except some guy nutted up some cash and went and raced a boat. It is not a qualification for anything in life other then saying "yes I raced boats."
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Hope they have a speedy recovery.. And being a race boat driver means exactly zero to me. The difference between everyone in this thread and a race boat driver is nothing.. Except some guy nutted up some cash and went and raced a boat. It is not a qualification for anything in life other then saying "yes I raced boats."
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09-04-2012, 05:12 PM
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And being a race boat driver means exactly zero to me. The difference between everyone in this thread and a race boat driver is nothing.. Except some guy nutted up some cash and went and raced a boat. It is not a qualification for anything in life other then saying "yes I raced boats."
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09-04-2012, 05:15 PM
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Bad deal for sure.. Aside from some very violent and bizarre throttling, you can see at the beginning of the video him dropping the starboard side tab down to balance the boat.. Between that tab on the one side most likely being down further then the other, and being late to the party on all accounts with the throttles.. (On in the air, and off in the water it looks like on the 2nd set) he Just tripped the boat
And being a race boat driver means exactly zero to me. The difference between everyone in this thread and a race boat driver is nothing.. Except some guy nutted up some cash and went and raced a boat. It is not a qualification for anything in life other then saying "yes I raced boats."
RD
And being a race boat driver means exactly zero to me. The difference between everyone in this thread and a race boat driver is nothing.. Except some guy nutted up some cash and went and raced a boat. It is not a qualification for anything in life other then saying "yes I raced boats."
RD
09-04-2012, 05:22 PM
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DrReedJ, I am glad everyone survived this horrific incident and I hope your wife starts feeling better sooner than later!
It sounds like the boat hit the classic cruiser wake. These wakes are nothing but destructive to people and property but for some reason they are the elephant in the room. There needs to be a discussion regarding open water ships, traveling at open water speeds on a lake while they go for a burger and beer. Don't get me wrong, I love big boats and would love to own one, but not on a lake in the middle of the country. Just a couple of weeks ago there was another video that involved a famous cat, experienced driver, high speed and a very negative outcome. The easiest fix "they" will suggest is more than likely an imposed speed limit, but the destructive wakes will still be present because the ship captains are operating at the safe speed of 25knots.
At the Lake of the Ozarks the "Falls Within a Boat" is the most common incident report made by the Water Patrol. Sadly this is not the first time there has been serious injuries caused by destructive wakes, only this is the first time it has been caught on video that is now making National News.
I wonder if the cruisers of The Lake that were out that day feel bad that it may just have their wake that caused this incident? Something tells me they haven't even given it a second thought.
A lot of comments have been made regarding the throttle work of the captain, but there hasn't been any discussion on what could have been a better way to operate them. I am not looking for the arm chair QB, but rather if we could learn a better technique from this that would be great. I have heard and seen many myself operate sticks in the same manor and if there is a better way I am all about learning.
Another question I have, what effect if any did the "stepped hull" play? I have always heard the steps are not very forgiving.
It sounds like the boat hit the classic cruiser wake. These wakes are nothing but destructive to people and property but for some reason they are the elephant in the room. There needs to be a discussion regarding open water ships, traveling at open water speeds on a lake while they go for a burger and beer. Don't get me wrong, I love big boats and would love to own one, but not on a lake in the middle of the country. Just a couple of weeks ago there was another video that involved a famous cat, experienced driver, high speed and a very negative outcome. The easiest fix "they" will suggest is more than likely an imposed speed limit, but the destructive wakes will still be present because the ship captains are operating at the safe speed of 25knots.
At the Lake of the Ozarks the "Falls Within a Boat" is the most common incident report made by the Water Patrol. Sadly this is not the first time there has been serious injuries caused by destructive wakes, only this is the first time it has been caught on video that is now making National News.
I wonder if the cruisers of The Lake that were out that day feel bad that it may just have their wake that caused this incident? Something tells me they haven't even given it a second thought.
A lot of comments have been made regarding the throttle work of the captain, but there hasn't been any discussion on what could have been a better way to operate them. I am not looking for the arm chair QB, but rather if we could learn a better technique from this that would be great. I have heard and seen many myself operate sticks in the same manor and if there is a better way I am all about learning.
Another question I have, what effect if any did the "stepped hull" play? I have always heard the steps are not very forgiving.
09-04-2012, 05:32 PM
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BTW - has anyone listend to this whole broadcast? Let's see #1 - Greg Olson wins shootout, but only because My Way crashes (picture of broken My Way), #2 - little girl drowns, #3 - this video, #4 - guy dies after he drives into a tree ... (I didn't go any further). Quite the good news station, don't you think??
