Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me

Not sure what you are disagreeing with me on?! I said LOTO is more like a river than a lake, meaning it is shaped like a river as opposed to a big, open lake (like say Lake St. Clair up in Michigan). I've been boating both the Illinois river and LOTO since the 70's. Yes, boating on those two bodies of water is different even though they are in essence shaped the same.

Originally Posted by Likefastboats

Since the big cruisers that can't get on plane are at the lake we all have to just learn how to boat safley in their wakes and for those of us that have point lots and a dock, we just have to keep our welders handy to repair the damage they cause. This is what the lake has become. Like it or not. But IMHO the bigazz cruisers have no busuness being at the lake. Not that I'm jealous or hate cruisers, they are beautiful and have their place. But they are just not designed for closed in inland lakes. If you want that big of a boat go buy a house with ocean access!!!!!! I can't even see what fun these big boats are in a lake. Oh well, this is going to be an endless topic for sure.

Originally Posted by 88242LS

we as drivers just have to take a step back

Originally Posted by Orthobam

I had 3 in the last 3 years. I don't get it either. We have a house and a dock so why the hell would we sleep on it. It would only go 20mph and was a pain in the ass to get out and put back away. Why did it take me so long to realize this? I don't know... it's just what I saw everyone else doing. Now I have a very sensible and conservative boat (40 Skater with 1150/1350s) to navigate the lake!!

Originally Posted by likefastboats

yes exactly! I don't know if the word "conservative" is correct for a 40 skater, but that is a beautiful and perfect boat for the lake.

Originally Posted by low_psi

So these "open water" cruiser are running "open water speeds" on a lake? What would you call a 38' Fountain? I am pretty sure that is an "off shore open water boat" traveling at speeds beyond the conditions. You are taking this "responsible for your own wake" a bit too far. How about you are responsible for launching your boat on its side then wiping out? I hope everyone recovers quickly and without emotional damage. But come on, let stop all this cruiser wake BS. I have a 26' Velocity and am around plenty of big cruisers in the Detroit River. At no time have I ever thought it was the responsibility of the cruiser to make sure his wake didn't interupt my travels. If in a no wake zone that is a different stoy. However, if a cruiser wake launches a 38' boat or any boat for that matter they were either both violating a no wake zone or they were in an open area where a wake is permitted. I think it is absurd to say a cruiser should slow down as to not create a wake for your offshore boat....

Originally Posted by DucBoy

I partially agree - but I think a better goal is for us to step up as yachtsmen that know how to read the sea and show courtesy (both to others and to our own passengers and crew) and not just throw a throttle back and forth.

Originally Posted by VtSteve

Yes they did, and in more than one accident thread. When complete arrogance combines with the dream of spoiled children, that's what you get.

At least some picked up on driving offshore boats on inland waterways at 90 mph.