Why are high performance boats so expensive!
#81
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So I looked at lots of boats last nights, mostly DCB, to see how these are one offs, or something no one else hase... Well that didn't happen! they are almost identical except for the paint, interior, and sometimes power.. Hull,layout,gauges , etc all the same.
Is almost like the chopper world, all the same, just pick your color package and motor...
I'm not bashing anyone, those boats are beautiful, but it's my opinion they are way way over priced.
Also, looked at some outerlimits, and a few others, same thing!!
Rick
Is almost like the chopper world, all the same, just pick your color package and motor...
I'm not bashing anyone, those boats are beautiful, but it's my opinion they are way way over priced.
Also, looked at some outerlimits, and a few others, same thing!!
Rick
I think however, if you could find a bunch of main stream parts from the housing and auto industry, and build a boat out of them you may be able to drive the price down. And you would be able to buy parts at home depot and auto zone
And BTW, the manufacture does not pay the retail price for the merc power.
So, in your head. Yu think a $500k retail boat that can be purchased for $375,000 has $310,000 of gross profit built into the price. And if everyone would just give a pc of the "extra" $300k in profit we could all purchase new 40 ft boats that do 125mph? Dude...
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I can't speak for DCB, but if you think Baja and Outerlimits are the same because they both have monster gauges.....I can't type enough to set you straight.
I think however, if you could find a bunch of main stream parts from the housing and auto industry, and build a boat out of them you may be able to drive the price down. And you would be able to buy parts at home depot and auto zone
And BTW, the manufacture does not pay the retail price for the merc power.
So, in your head. Yu think a $500k retail boat that can be purchased for $375,000 has $310,000 of gross profit built into the price. And if everyone would just give a pc of the "extra" $300k in profit we could all purchase new 40 ft boats that do 125mph? Dude...
I think however, if you could find a bunch of main stream parts from the housing and auto industry, and build a boat out of them you may be able to drive the price down. And you would be able to buy parts at home depot and auto zone
And BTW, the manufacture does not pay the retail price for the merc power.
So, in your head. Yu think a $500k retail boat that can be purchased for $375,000 has $310,000 of gross profit built into the price. And if everyone would just give a pc of the "extra" $300k in profit we could all purchase new 40 ft boats that do 125mph? Dude...
Like I've said, I'm not try into be a smat butt, or cause problems, I just wanted to know if theses things could be sold for less, and if the mark ups on all involed is where it comes fom.
Rick
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Go through a build and you'll find there is more to custom than paint, power, interior color. I've gone through 2 compete new boat builds. A Ultra and a DCB. Sure there were boats on the market used but being a lifelong boater and knowing what I like and don't like, there were a few requirements that I specifically had which I couldn't find on the used market. Why "settle" when I have the opportunity to "get what I want" Both Ultra and DCB worked with me to incorporate the customizations I wanted.
Is it expensive? I guess depends on what "it's worth" to you. If I spent half the money but wasn't satisfied or it was lacking something wanted/needed, then was it worth the savings? Not to me. That's not to say I wouldn't buy used versus buying new. All the other boats i've ever had have been used and I was happy with
I'm not meaning anything mean by that statement, but based upon the thread and all the responses and input, I'm not really sure what you could be told to understand the difference between a custom boat builder and that are "mass" produced.
Last edited by drejustice; 12-23-2012 at 11:22 AM.
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I've have always wondered why hp boats are so expensive, what is it that drives the prices up so high? I know motors, drives, hull are not cheap, but dang !! Once you get over 30ft and within a few years of when the boat was built it sky rockets out of most peoples reach!
Are the boats that cost anywhere from $100k up to $650k because people are willing to pay it, or is there really that much money put in them?
Hypotheticaly, if someone could do everything from ground up, I mean everything from building the motor, not putting together or buying parts,, I mean just like they do say at mercury, then fiberglassing and or whatever material to mold a hull, gauges, drives, paint and whatever else goes into it to have a completed hp boat. Would the coast be anywhere near what they sale for.
I'm just curious is all, I know, if you have to ask!! But I just really was curious, I have no clue what goes into the building of one of these boats so I figured I would Ask.
Rick
Are the boats that cost anywhere from $100k up to $650k because people are willing to pay it, or is there really that much money put in them?
Hypotheticaly, if someone could do everything from ground up, I mean everything from building the motor, not putting together or buying parts,, I mean just like they do say at mercury, then fiberglassing and or whatever material to mold a hull, gauges, drives, paint and whatever else goes into it to have a completed hp boat. Would the coast be anywhere near what they sale for.
I'm just curious is all, I know, if you have to ask!! But I just really was curious, I have no clue what goes into the building of one of these boats so I figured I would Ask.
Rick
You will be astonished at the man hours it takes to go from order to delivery. Simply moving around all the parts is a huge task.
Then on top of all that you need to warranty your product, and maintain liability insurance for the morons that crash it and wish to blame you.
Uncle Dave
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friend of mine just paid $400 for a baseball bat, makes my boat purchase look reasonable. pick your poison.
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im in the collision repair biz. try this one, $380 for a radiator overflow/washer fluid bottle for a chrysler aspen. nothing but a glorified milk jug.
#87
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You just don't know your looking for. When you looked at DCB i assume you mean you looked at pictures. I don't think your going to understand "custom" by looking at pictures. Sure there's gel design, power and interior but there is more than that.
Go through a build and you'll find there is more to custom than paint, power, interior color. I've gone through 2 compete new boat builds. A Ultra and a DCB. Sure there were boats on the market used but being a lifelong boater and knowing what I like and don't like, there were a few requirements that I specifically had which I couldn't find on the used market. Why "settle" when I have the opportunity to "get what I want" Both Ultra and DCB worked with me to incorporate the customizations I wanted.
Is it expensive? I guess depends on what "it's worth" to you. If I spent half the money but wasn't satisfied or it was lacking something wanted/needed, then was it worth the savings? Not to me. That's not to say I wouldn't buy used versus buying new. All the other boats i've ever had have been used and I was happy with
I read this and laughed thinking "this kid just doesn't get it and i'm not sure he ever would."
I'm not meaning anything mean by that statement, but based upon the thread and all the responses and input, I'm not really sure what you could be told to understand the difference between a custom boat builder and that are "mass" produced.
Go through a build and you'll find there is more to custom than paint, power, interior color. I've gone through 2 compete new boat builds. A Ultra and a DCB. Sure there were boats on the market used but being a lifelong boater and knowing what I like and don't like, there were a few requirements that I specifically had which I couldn't find on the used market. Why "settle" when I have the opportunity to "get what I want" Both Ultra and DCB worked with me to incorporate the customizations I wanted.
Is it expensive? I guess depends on what "it's worth" to you. If I spent half the money but wasn't satisfied or it was lacking something wanted/needed, then was it worth the savings? Not to me. That's not to say I wouldn't buy used versus buying new. All the other boats i've ever had have been used and I was happy with
I read this and laughed thinking "this kid just doesn't get it and i'm not sure he ever would."
I'm not meaning anything mean by that statement, but based upon the thread and all the responses and input, I'm not really sure what you could be told to understand the difference between a custom boat builder and that are "mass" produced.
I've stated in every post it was just my opinion !
Rick
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Go spend 2-3 months every day at a custom shop and look at the manpower it takes to lay up, build, paint/gel, rig a boat and you will have a much better understanding than we can all put into words.
You will be astonished at the man hours it takes to go from order to delivery. Simply moving around all the parts is a huge task.
Then on top of all that you need to warranty your product, and maintain liability insurance for the morons that crash it and wish to blame you.
Uncle Dave
You will be astonished at the man hours it takes to go from order to delivery. Simply moving around all the parts is a huge task.
Then on top of all that you need to warranty your product, and maintain liability insurance for the morons that crash it and wish to blame you.
Uncle Dave
Rick
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I get the point y'all are making about bats, and clubs and how nothing is cheap. I was just wondering if they had to be so expensive!
I'm in the same game of life as the rest of you, forced to pay more than something is worth and be ok with that. I was not trying to imply that things don't cost, rather do they have to cost so much.
If you read my first post, it was presented as a question, never a statement of fact!
Rick
I'm in the same game of life as the rest of you, forced to pay more than something is worth and be ok with that. I was not trying to imply that things don't cost, rather do they have to cost so much.
If you read my first post, it was presented as a question, never a statement of fact!
Rick