21 Challenger People
11-28-2006, 03:20 PM
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Re: 21 Challenger People
T2X is exactly right about the Superboat and the Intimidator, for what it is worth, I think the Intimidator is the better package due to it's more resonable pricing.
There are some copies that are infact better than the original, both in construction method and hardware, but for it's vintage the Challenger 21 was VERY VERY well built.
But those that care and take pride in there product, use both better materials and techniques then were avaliable 30 years ago.
RT
There are some copies that are infact better than the original, both in construction method and hardware, but for it's vintage the Challenger 21 was VERY VERY well built.
But those that care and take pride in there product, use both better materials and techniques then were avaliable 30 years ago.
RT
11-28-2006, 04:29 PM
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Re: 21 Challenger People
Originally Posted by BradH
Not sure, haven't done much more than just looked around over there.
Anybody know if a center console was ever made from this hull?
Anybody know if a center console was ever made from this hull?
http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...ght=Challenger
11-28-2006, 08:43 PM
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Re: 21 Challenger People
Originally Posted by TUFFboat
Here is a 1977, recently restored. It was one of the 3 all black one's built for Mercury. It was a classic case of lost in a barn with no names or numbers on it.
We are now helping a customer restore a very rare I/O verion... Gerge, do you remember a small block, brown sides with a cream coloured deck, and all teak hatch, left hand streer that went to Canada?
We are now helping a customer restore a very rare I/O verion... Gerge, do you remember a small block, brown sides with a cream coloured deck, and all teak hatch, left hand streer that went to Canada?
11-28-2006, 08:45 PM
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Re: 21 Challenger People
Originally Posted by T2x
Superboat has an original set of Challenger molds and therefore makes the closest Challenger derivative. However the construction is much lighter, and the interior and hardware is much cheaper. The rough water ride characteristics are also very different in that the Challengers were built (and felt) like solid steel..... In addition the deck mold has become unuseable and SB makes no original 21's at this time. The fastest SB belongs to Joey Imprescia at 104+ with a single 300X
The original Shadow molds are currently used to build the Intimidator hulls, and therefore they are the closest Shadow derivative. Intimidator has modified the deck a little. This hull has proven to be the fastest that I've seen.... 106+ with a single 300X.
Neither the original Challengers nor Shadows could run the speeds shown due to weight (probably 400 #'s heavier)......But... fit, finish, hardware, and ride was far superior.
T2x
The original Shadow molds are currently used to build the Intimidator hulls, and therefore they are the closest Shadow derivative. Intimidator has modified the deck a little. This hull has proven to be the fastest that I've seen.... 106+ with a single 300X.
Neither the original Challengers nor Shadows could run the speeds shown due to weight (probably 400 #'s heavier)......But... fit, finish, hardware, and ride was far superior.
T2x
11-29-2006, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Magicfloat
Sorry,my mistake. BTW,I was only referring to boat #1 that went to the PB trials.After that Don Brooks made some slight bottom and rigging mods and susequent 38's were fine runners. Friend of mine had one for years,sold it last year. Looked a lot like your graphics. Did yours come from Bham,AL?
Jim
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11-29-2006, 09:33 AM
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Re: 21 Challenger People
Originally Posted by ActiveFun
Thats cool. How fast would it be with twin 2.5's?
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11-29-2006, 10:28 AM
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T2x, that Red Challenger I had, originally had twin CCC Johnrudes on it and went 111 with Merc MC1 speedmasters retrofitted to fit.... back in 1981. I am sure there is more, that particular boat had the aerated bottom and generated a lot more stern lift. As such it ran a lot flatter than the straight bottom Challenger I had. I am sure today with the motors off Driftin' more is there.
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11-29-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RBT
T2x, that Red Challenger I had, originally had twin CCC Johnrudes on it and went 111 with Merc MC1 speedmasters retrofitted to fit.... back in 1981. I am sure there is more, that particular boat had the aerated bottom and generated a lot more stern lift. As such it ran a lot flatter than the straight bottom Challenger I had. I am sure today with the motors off Driftin' more is there.
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