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Old 11-29-2006, 05:38 PM
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Anyone know of some old 21s w/o power for sale?
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:53 PM
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you mean with a bottom like this?
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by T2x
That's interesting in that we have one of 5 1981 Step bottomed (That's right folks...1981 ..... before Hustler or Fountain even existed) Shadows in Joey's shop now...and the owner is putting dual 2.5's on it (old style)... Speedmasters, as you know, change the whole equation ...and outboard speedmasters (much smaller than your MC1's) really increase handling and manners at speed...Unfortunately this guy has a limited budget...20" engines..... and stock gearcases. The twins always ran much flatter than the singles but it will be interesting to see what the step does or doesn't add to the equation.

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T2x, Im interested to find out why the twins ran flatter than the single engines?

RBT, thats a very interesting bottom setup!! I assume that it was working on a venturi effect?

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Old 11-30-2006, 02:24 PM
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Not quite. Rob is so full of hot air that he had a large pipe hooked directly from the tubes to the drivers side of the boat and equipped with a mouthpiece into which he blew.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Philip
The Brown and Beige one in the background had a 454 in it, hooked to a TRS , it also had a custom Teak engine cover.

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Old 11-30-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RBT
you mean with a bottom like this?

Yes
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Waterboy123
T2x, Im interested to find out why the twins ran flatter than the single engines?
Twins had so much more power and torque that they needed much less positive trim than a single....hence they ran considerably flatter....and were significantly better in rough water as well.......Of course that was after you added the ballast.
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Old 11-30-2006, 03:45 PM
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I completely agree on the twins in rough water. I only drove mine a little with the twins before I restored the boat... to a single. It made it a lot nicer to drive and much more practical, but never had the power or rough water ability. With the 300 it was a pleasure to drive, with the old twins...... an animal.

Airpacker, if you could have bow hot air down the other pipe it might have gone 100!

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Old 11-30-2006, 08:54 PM
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Jayboat,,

Not at all,, great boats..
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:20 PM
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What years were the Shadows built?I am looking at a 95 right now.
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