315duramax

everyone else who likes powerboats, likes the price, and who isnt an avid OSO'r?
theres so much hate on here, at least one guy got his boat, one guy didnt, and that really sucks! but the boat looks awesome, hopefully sonic can deliver these cats and they are decent boat. lord knows we need a boat like this in the industry. lets see what happens

LubeJobs42

I like it. If it runs good I may make an offer.

offshorexcursion

I am surprised anyone would support Sonic/Frisini after reading this thread

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ed-advice.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...w-frisini.html

My cliff notes (please correct me if I am wrong)

Chuck ordered a boat from Frisini/Spectre/Sonic
OCM collected Chucks money
OCM used Chucks money to help themselves make money all while trying to protect chuck from not receiving a boat
Chuck ordered OCM to pay the remaining balance to Frisini/Spectre/Sonic on his new boat order
TO THIS DAY (2-3 years later) CHUCK HAS NOT RECIEVED HIS NEW BOAT
Frisini changed the name on the side from Spectre to Sonic, and took chucks boat on some joy rides to promote their shady company
The Spectre molds were repossessed from Frisini
Frisini rebrands their company to only Sonic hoping we would not remember

Chuck

I'm having a little trouble sleeping tonight so I figured I would chime in here a little. Obviously I appreciate the posts from members here who empathize with my situation, thank you! Let me just say a little bit here about both facts and some of my opinions. Fact: Two years ago this month I compounded my problems with Tony Frisina/ Arrow Powerboats by transferring him more money than we had agreed to in the agreement between him, myself and OCM. This was my big mistake, I lost my edge in the negotiating. At this point it was easier to screw me over and sell the boat twice and profit vs doing what we had contracted to do and complete the boat. For those of you that are new here to this situation this was funds paid to Frisina by me on behalf of the dealer, I had completely paid for the boat when I made my initial deal by trading down in boat.
Other Customers Boats:
The first 36 CC with the stepped bottom is currently in litigation in NJ. The boat was never completed ( although it was completely paid for and over a YEAR late) and later as part of the litigation was deemed unseaworthy by a marine construction professional.
The 42 Spectre ( wait lost the franchise), Sonic ( wait, people won't accept it as a Sonic), Frisini Cat was funded and never completed. This boat was years late and also deemed ( this is second hand info not personally told to me) unsafe and a hazard to the occupants. The owner of the vessel had to pay to have the boat completely re rigged at his expense. It is rumored that this was in excess of $50,000. This owner also had to pay for a complete cabin to be made and installed since Frisini never finished the boat. Today the graphics on the boat have been changed to not indicate any branding related to Frisini.
The first 39 CC owner does appear to be happy with his boat as indicated by some of his posts here on OSO.
The first open bow 30 Vendetta completed a cpl years ago ( over a year late) also had to be completely re rigged. The dealer involved had to eat this expense and has never been funded by Frisini for their poor and unacceptable craftsmanship.
Well known professionals and vendors in the marine industry who have been financially screwed by Tony Frisina and Arrow Powerboats:
Jay Pilini, original founder of Spectre Powerboats
Chris Dilling, founder of Grafix EFX
John Cunningham, vast experience in different capacities with many brands still in existence today.
Skater40, businessman and former owner of Spectre molds and branding rights.
Ilmor Marine
PokeRuns America
Tim Sharkey ( rumor not first hand knowledge known by me but hinted to in his posts also)
Oregon Custom Marine
I would strongly caution anyone thinking about doing business with this company to do their due diligence. Pick up the phone and call some well known people in the industry. Tony Frisina and Arrow Powerboats are a joke in the marine industry and not a valued customer by most marine vendors ( cash only).
In closing, I'm embarrassed I ever thought about leaving Nor-Tech. Both Nor-Tech and FastBoats were easy simple transactions and the products they gave me provided me great memories that will last a lifetime, and more importantly allowed me to meet some amazing people in both this sport and industry. Due to Tony Frisina and Arrow Powerboats I will be on the sidelines for quite some time but still enjoy OSO and all the friends I have made here.

Chuck

Please do your homework Gino.

Chuck

In a nutshell dead on with the exception of OCM. In hind sight Frisina was the problem the whole time. OCM has been screwed over pretty hard by Arrow/ Frisina too.

Chuck

New silent partners are constantly being sought. The 42 V was not sold at the show, as stated by the owner on another thread but, my opinion is smoke and mirrors on Tony's part. There is no way the boat could have been a show sale because Arrow / Frisina couldn't fund the power without a buyers checkbook ( my opinion based on deals I have personally witnessed at the factory).

Chuck

One last note, Tony Frisina constantly reads these post and it drives him insane. Tony sits on the sidelines fuming but doesn't reply due to the fact that he would be bringing a knife to a gunfight here on OSO. Now he or one of his cronies may chime in with a brand new membership but we all know what happens then..... Tony you are definitely winning, you got me better than anyone ever has but know this, I'm not on here as much as I used to be and no good would come from dragging your name through the mud everyday but, whenever you think your going to get some good press I will be here to chime in and let people know my story. The boat world is a small world and the custom boat world is even smaller. I'll be watching to make sure people know the facts before falling for your bull****.

Rattlesnake Jake

Don't know how you put up with this all these years Chuck. Hope you come out on top Soon.

JRider

I sure hope you are pursuing all legal avenues, makes me nauseous reading your posts. I have a friend who paid in full for a Force Offshore 32 cat in ~2009...they took his money (loan) and went belly up. He got a shell of a hull with interior, no power and settled with the bank and is paying on $80k. I believe he has a judgment for the money (which he will never see). Brad Ayers is the guy who did the screwing, word is he has been shot before...probably wont be the last time. If you hear his name, steer clear.

I hope people learn from these posts, sucks watching people get screwed.