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Old 05-30-2015, 10:04 AM
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Good plan , its pretty easy to get them apart and together but sometimes getting all the seals in correctly and undamaged can be challenging.
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
I guess a lot will depend on how tight that nut is! First I'll order the seal kit and then dig up a wrench. Hopefully I'll find a noticeably damaged seal.
Mine were not on tight, but they do use loctite so you might need a little heat. BTW mine are Marine Machine. Can you see why my boat drifted a little?

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Have you contacted Steve to see if they could do it or help in any way? He has always been great to work with and pretty fair.
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Old 05-31-2015, 06:53 AM
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[QUOTE=Rookie;4310801]Mine were not on tight, but they do use loctite so you might need a little heat. BTW mine are Marine Machine. Can you see why my boat drifted a little?

They look pretty simple inside. I expect that I might find something similar like a twisted seal. I started having problems after 2 seasons.

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Have you contacted Steve to see if they could do it or help in any way? He has always been great to work with and pretty fair.
Dave, I had only worked with Paul at Zeiger. I put the system on in March, 2010 and started having problems after two seasons. At that time there were no leaks but I was getting play (air) in the system after every hard run. Here is my first thread about it: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...g-air-why.html . Paul had no idea what the problem could be since the symptoms were pretty vague. They are now way out of any warranty period and I'll be happy to just have this mystery problem fixed. The noticeable fluid loss and oil slicks started this spring so at least now I think I know where the problem is. I'm betting I'll find a twisted seal like Rookie did. Loryco is right down the street and I think I'll just take it to them www.loryco.com . I appreciate the replies. Oh, I do have the Latham reservoir.
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I tore my rams apart and brought everything to my local hydraulic shop. They measured everything, grabbed my seals and wipers and sent me on my way. Just remember which way the seals are facing when installed. I take pics of everything.
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Old 06-01-2015, 09:14 AM
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just get the seal kit from zeigar,,the loctite is a special blend for hydraulic rams..not your every day stuff used on common nuts and bolts..yes i have rebuilt many and some big mofos as well..
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I made a spanner wrench using what I could find in my tool box. The cylinder came apart pretty easily. I was hoping to see something obvious like Rookie did but what I can see at this point looks OK. I ordered two rebuild kits from Zeiger and they should get here Wednesday. I won't take it all the way apart until the kits are here.

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Surprised no one mentioned this, but unless the rod is perfectly (and I mean perfectly) smooth it will need rechromed. Even minute scratches will eat new seals in no time. Pretty cheap to have done, Any hydraulic shop should be able to send a rod out to be rechromed.
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Do you mean cylinder?
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Originally Posted by bomar76
Surprised no one mentioned this, but unless the rod is perfectly (and I mean perfectly) smooth it will need rechromed. Even minute scratches will eat new seals in no time. Pretty cheap to have done, Any hydraulic shop should be able to send a rod out to be rechromed.
THEIR not chromed..polished stainless steel..
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