bajaholic

Those are the only State access ramps. But start adding in all the Marinas, Resorts, Condos etc. Including 4 Seasons HOA, there is easily 10+ off HH and the Strip, all with in 3-5 miles of Carol Rd. (Most allow ramping for a small fee.

ICDEDPPL You can call me a cheerleader all you want, I'm just looking at the positive of change and putting "special person" in to perspective. Only seems fair since you seem to be voicing your opinion, I have mine.

Jupiter Sunsation

^^^Great post/perspective

How many people have failed at the boat business vs. how many have prospered 20+ years. Even Reggie had huge success followed by huge failure when the money dried up.
I don't agree with the Gates/Jobs/Musk/Zuckerberg comparison..........they all invented their product/success vs. this kid's dad bought it.
CRT is a great brand but it is going to take a great leader to take it into the next chapter. $5+ gas, inflation and a subsequent interest rate hike could seriously jolt the boat business back into reality not just from a boat buying/owning perspective but how many owners are getting squeezed in their own incomes already and might consider holding off on big purchases? Remember CRT success is based on new boat builds/sales.

Tropical Buzz

Correct. https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/202...under-8093868/

36Tango

I like both dealerships, but how is this change positive? As a consumer, it will be neutral at best, as I cannot imagine BT doing a better job (albeit they may do an equally great job as they are a top notch dealership). My guess is that it goes beyond just buying and selling boats (like maybe a merger in the future and then take it public or sell to Brunswick?) I might be going out on a limb here, but it sounds like you may have an axe to grind with PBC. Please let us all know what that is so that we can form/change our opinion.

Exactly how do you see this as a positive change? Just askin'

bajaholic

My personal opinion on PBC is known to those that matter and they all know openly how I feel and why. That is where I will leave it. I have been and am involved in both dealerships on a personal level through family and my business. Again, it is a small world at the lake and I try to get along. I hold no distain, but understand they are 2 distinctively different operations and both have positives, here is my opinion of the highlights:

PBC is a glitz and glimmer dealership, no contest in most realms. No doubt they put on one hell of a show. They will happily express their strengths to their customer base. You want a happy party experience, they have it.

BTM: More of a family atmosphere. More business like and more subdued atmosphere on the surface. But.... Look at the $$$ numbers in sales, service and accessories. No contest. Their owner is NOT out front yelling hey look at me, but working hard putting the right people in place to make it work like a machine. He owns Iconic Marine, plus many other entities. BTM is the sales/service entity and and they are committed to success.... BTM carries many different lines of boats and are diverse between the separate dealerships. Sales numbers show it.

Here is where I go into the weeds and hypothesize in the new direction for Cigarette: They want a business that supports the different facets they are looking at, branding not just the boat, but apparel and off shoot products. They are likely looking for a business driven entity that has proven sales records, less drama, and a a staff that is in place to handle all those lines along with what they have already. BTM fits that mold.

On a customer side, I have no idea what is planned, but knowing the people and team they are putting together I doubt you will be disappointed once the plan is rolled out. That being said I doubt you will ever see the party atmosphere of PBC? But if you want a boat, good service after the purchase and the swag to look good doing it, BTM is going that direction.

To be fair, everyone will/has had stumbles along the way, it is business, question who would you trust in the long run? Apparently Cigarette picked BTM. They have their reasons and I doubt very much, one person in the entity made that decision. I guess we will all see how this plays out, I doubt the loss side didn't see this coming? But the timing may not have been what they expected. We will all see how this plays out. I personally and professionally, hope it goes great! And to the other side, wish them the best, I am sure they will get a plan and make sure we all know it, loud and clear.

Griff

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And since I think you stay at Ledges a lot, the PB2 ramp is way closer and IMO easier than using PBC's

offshoredrillin

exactly, and while we wear all the hats at our own companies, there are many people around him that watch and help in the decision process. right now is the honeymoon and acquisition time, soon it will be time to see if it plays out. if they can take the dw cats and bring them to another level thats great, as well as new models, they have reached out to core owners with Mindi running the refurb ctr (which may turn out to be the most profitable part of the operation, time will tell). going to be tough in the next year or so with fuel and bad decisions in washington. the pleasure/luxury mkt takes a hit first over food and daily living expenses. if he can appease the core customer and migrate them into the plan as well as bring in new clients with innovation it should work.

flat rate

condos and four seasons ramps are not public ramps.

Helmwurst

Maybe Fred is going to buy Cig down the road ? Never know about that guy, he knows how to build empires and make money.

bajaholic

Your right! Neither is the marina that was posted, NOT A PUBLIC RAMP. That is the whole point of this conversation. Yet the person who stated he was turned away, felt he deserved to "just launch" and since he was turned away, has stated the place deserves to be condemned.