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Old 01-10-2023, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
make sure you use the ARP assembly lube when reassembling the engine and proper torque sequence on the heads
FurthermoreHe's got 454's I believe, so ARP or Permatex thread sealer on threads. ARP's lune on washers and underhead of bolts.
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Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer
Installed height for both are: 1.920 and 155lbs
Open ht is 1.370 and 340 lbs
bind is 1.187 and 550lbs.
I have no idea what this means. It's on the build sheet.
in my opinion that’s a bit light for 5500+ rpm. Rather see at least 420-450 open.
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Edit: i misread.
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Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer
Installed height for both are: 1.920 and 155lbs
Open ht is 1.370 and 340 lbs
bind is 1.187 and 550lbs.
I have no idea what this means. It's on the build sheet.
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in my opinion that’s a bit light for 5500+ rpm. Rather see at least 420-450 open.
His cam lift is just .550” vs the .610” to .632” or more we typically see on bbc builds. So maybe that makes the open look lower than normal ? Time for some math for a look see.

“To calculate a valve spring rate, subtract the seat pressure from the open pressure, then divide by the lift.”

So, plugging in the provided #’s:
340lb (open) - 155 lbs (seat) = 185lbs
1.92” seat - 1.370” open = .550” lift
185lbs/.550in = 336.4 lbs/in spring rate

Did i do math right ? 336 rate is low. As example The popularly used Isky 8005A is 400lbs/in.


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Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer
540Fever, Yup. I missed almost 2 full season's working on these engines between cash flow and everything backordered. Now finally done and It seems everyone thinks I have 2 expensive grenades ready to go off at any time. Obviously it would be beyond terrible if they do grenade but I can't chase something based on opinions of people that had no hand in them at all. Ultimately I'm going with the guys that built and dyno'd these engines. Neither see's a problem with the printout's or the way they performed. If you boat on the Grand River or Lake Michigan and see me getting towed in, be sure to wave and tell me you told me so.



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If you would like to have my head guy look at them for you just let me know. Valako just finished up my 302 and might have some time between the 496's he's rebuilding. He's local.
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Originally Posted by SB
His cam lift is just .550” vs the .610” to .632” or more we typically see on bbc builds. So maybe that makes the open look lower than normal ? Time for some math for a look see.

“To calculate a valve spring rate, subtract the seat pressure from the open pressure, then divide by the lift.”
OR JUST LOOK ON PAC's WEBSITE

So, plugging in the provided #’s:
340lb (open) - 155 lbs (seat) = 185lbs
1.92” seat - 1.370” open = .550” lift
185lbs/.550in = 336.4 lbs/in spring rate

Did i do math right ? 336 rate is low. As example The popularly used Isky 8005A is 400lbs/in.
https://www.racingsprings.com/index....ing-11334.html

Install height = 194lb
Spring rate is 469lb/in (PAC website)
469*.550 = 258lb
258lb + 194lb = 452lbs open
Those are close to the Comp 933's I run.

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Originally Posted by Rookie
https://www.racingsprings.com/index....ing-11334.html

Install height = 194lb
Spring rate is 469lb/in (PAC website)
469*.550 = 258lb
258lb + 194lb = 452lbs open
Those are close to the Comp 933's I run.
i missed the pac # then. What is it ?

edit in: Okay, from your link PAC-1940.


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Originally Posted by SB
i missed the pac # then. What is it ?

edit in: Okay, from your link PAC-1940.
Actually subtract 20lbs. AFR install is 176lbs. Still reasonable.

"PAC Racing #1940 1.550” OD Hydraulic Roller Dual Valve Spring, 175 lbs. on seat, .725” maximum lift, Max RPM 6500-6700"
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I thought someone talked to pac and they said not to use the hot rod series for marine endurance ?
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