Old School HP500
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All depends on the heads and rotating assembly you are going to use. Id guess 15 - 20k to do it right
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I would suggest using the 500EFI cam instead of the reversion prone HP cam. Still have some nice parts from my HP500 that will be going up for sale soon. Valve covers, circulating pump with blue pulley, blue 3 groove crank pulley and Gil/Merc exhaust manifolds.
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Bottom end is the same as a 502mag. GM forged crank, rods, pistons. 8.75:1 compression.
GM rect port heads with I think 2.25 intake and 1.88 valves. Crane gold roller rockers.
Cam specs are out there, but stock cam had reversion issues. Better off to use a 500efi cam or 525EFI cam. Teague has copies of both.
Dart single plain intake and Holley 800cfm carb.
Gil Exhaust and some expensive blue paint
If you're starting from scratch, better off to make it into a 540ci
GM rect port heads with I think 2.25 intake and 1.88 valves. Crane gold roller rockers.
Cam specs are out there, but stock cam had reversion issues. Better off to use a 500efi cam or 525EFI cam. Teague has copies of both.
Dart single plain intake and Holley 800cfm carb.
Gil Exhaust and some expensive blue paint
If you're starting from scratch, better off to make it into a 540ci
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Bottom end is the same as a 502mag. GM forged crank, rods, pistons. 8.75:1 compression.
GM rect port heads with I think 2.25 intake and 1.88 valves. Crane gold roller rockers.
Cam specs are out there, but stock cam had reversion issues. Better off to use a 500efi cam or 525EFI cam. Teague has copies of both.
Dart single plain intake and Holley 800cfm carb.
Gil Exhaust and some expensive blue paint
If you're starting from scratch, better off to make it into a 540ci
GM rect port heads with I think 2.25 intake and 1.88 valves. Crane gold roller rockers.
Cam specs are out there, but stock cam had reversion issues. Better off to use a 500efi cam or 525EFI cam. Teague has copies of both.
Dart single plain intake and Holley 800cfm carb.
Gil Exhaust and some expensive blue paint
If you're starting from scratch, better off to make it into a 540ci
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For Gen VI HP500's cam I have the following in my notes:
Merc HP500 Carb
Crane Gen VI#169611 Grind#HR-284-2S-10IG
Adv 284, 292 at .004” Lift with 1.7 .576 / .598
At .050” 222, 230
ICL 105, ECL 115
LSA 110
Part Number: 169611 Grind Number: HR-284-2S-10 IG
Engine Identification:
Start Yr. End Yr. Make Cyl Description
1996 Up CHEVROLET 8 HYD. ROLLER WITH CAST IRON DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR
Engine Size Configuration
454-502 C.I. V
Valve Setting: Intake .000 Exhaust .000 HOT
Lift: Intake @Cam 339 @Valve 576 All Lifts are based
on zero lash and theoretical rocker arm ratios.
Exhaust @ Cam 352 @Valve 598
Rocker Arm Ratio 1.70
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.004
Lift: Opens Closes ADV Duration
Intake 33.0 BTDC 71.0 ABDC 284 °
Exhaust 77.0 BBDC 35.0 ATDC 292 °
Spring Requirements: Triple Dual Outer Inner
Part Number 99896
Loads Closed 150 LBS @ 1.900 or 1 29/32
Open 441 LBS @ 1.330
Recommended RPM range with matching components
Minimum RPM 2500
Maximum RPM 6000
Valve Float 6500
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050
Lift: Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake 6.0 BTDC 36.0 ABDC 105 222 °
Exhaust 50.0 BBDC 0.0 BTDC 115 230 °
Remarks:
CRANE 16535-16 LONG TRAVEL HYDRAULIC ROLLER- LIFTERS MUST BE USED WITH GREATER THAN .570 LIFT CAMSHAFTS TO PREVENT ALIGNMENT BAR DISENGAGEMENT.
Merc HP500 Carb
Crane Gen VI#169611 Grind#HR-284-2S-10IG
Adv 284, 292 at .004” Lift with 1.7 .576 / .598
At .050” 222, 230
ICL 105, ECL 115
LSA 110
Part Number: 169611 Grind Number: HR-284-2S-10 IG
Engine Identification:
Start Yr. End Yr. Make Cyl Description
1996 Up CHEVROLET 8 HYD. ROLLER WITH CAST IRON DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR
Engine Size Configuration
454-502 C.I. V
Valve Setting: Intake .000 Exhaust .000 HOT
Lift: Intake @Cam 339 @Valve 576 All Lifts are based
on zero lash and theoretical rocker arm ratios.
Exhaust @ Cam 352 @Valve 598
Rocker Arm Ratio 1.70
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.004
Lift: Opens Closes ADV Duration
Intake 33.0 BTDC 71.0 ABDC 284 °
Exhaust 77.0 BBDC 35.0 ATDC 292 °
Spring Requirements: Triple Dual Outer Inner
Part Number 99896
Loads Closed 150 LBS @ 1.900 or 1 29/32
Open 441 LBS @ 1.330
Recommended RPM range with matching components
Minimum RPM 2500
Maximum RPM 6000
Valve Float 6500
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050
Lift: Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake 6.0 BTDC 36.0 ABDC 105 222 °
Exhaust 50.0 BBDC 0.0 BTDC 115 230 °
Remarks:
CRANE 16535-16 LONG TRAVEL HYDRAULIC ROLLER- LIFTERS MUST BE USED WITH GREATER THAN .570 LIFT CAMSHAFTS TO PREVENT ALIGNMENT BAR DISENGAGEMENT.
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Free horsepower I believe is the concept. You're not going to stress the moving parts anymore with larger displacement and it will make more power. The more displacement argument in a boat just keeps getting better when you start modifying the engine with things like forced induction.
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and not a tall deck block. Helps if its a twin.
Free horsepower I believe is the concept. You're not going to stress the moving parts anymore with larger displacement and it will make more power. The more displacement argument in a boat just keeps getting better when you start modifying the engine with things like forced induction.
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