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Old 08-13-2024, 04:50 PM
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Hi Tommy, I live across the state from you by Cape Canaveral.

My friends live all around the country and the world so I get a bunch of different perspectives. But just to be clear I am not talking fresh out of college, I am pretty sure I am close to your age from posts I have seen.

Republicans vote republican and democrats vote démocrate for the most part, its the middle that he needs to win over, or her.

To answer your questions, this is the type of things I see, again some are far left most far right, a lot in the middle.
  • Illegals, I do not know of one single person that agrees with that. It's insane. I kind of liked the stay in Mexico policy.
  • On inflation I see answers like.
    • when both administration pumped out billions in stimulus it was bound to happen.
    • It's a world wide issue.
    • Biden caused most of it.
    • Of course that is grocery prices as well.
    • Gas prices it's the typical on what side they lean what has caused it. Funny I have two friend's (one a Canadian that just got his US citizenship last year). They are about as far left as you can get, one says good on high gas everyone needs an electric car. the other doesn't like most electric cars.
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Old 08-13-2024, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
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And, for every one of those, I can show you five NeverTrumpers who are voting for Trump.

I have no problem with how people want to vote. But we are really getting tired of telling them "I told you so". the Left is losing the PoC vote, because they are tired of being promised and lied to. The Left is losing the Jewish vote because of the entrenched antisemitism. Hollywood is starting to wake up, even if ever so slowly. The MSM is systematically destroying its own credibility by accidentally destroying their own narratives with the tangled web they are weaving.

You are right, though. Our enemies are loving the division the Left is inciting. I'm just glad that chasm is opening up considerably to the Left of Center, and that so many on the moderate Left are either backing away from the edge or jumping the chasm before it gets too wide. When the Left is losing Bill Maher, you know the Overton window has lurched too far.

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CNN just had a current poll that states Trump has more support than 2016 and 2020 .
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Hi Brad, I would agree with most of that except the one saying the left is the only side inciting. Not when I see the right saying the left is our enemy and trying to destroy OUR country.
If we lose we need a civil war, stuff like that. You should hear some of the local ads. To me they both need to stop that chit as you get unstable people fired up.

BTW for both you and Tommy, full disclosure I am a transplanted Midwestern, grew up just south of where Tommy grew up.

Originally Posted by Brad Christy
Wildman,

And, for every one of those, I can show you five NeverTrumpers who are voting for Trump.

I have no problem with how people want to vote. But we are really getting tired of telling them "I told you so". the Left is losing the PoC vote, because they are tired of being promised and lied to. The Left is losing the Jewish vote because of the entrenched antisemitism. Hollywood is starting to wake up, even if ever so slowly. The MSM is systematically destroying its own credibility by accidentally destroying their own narratives with the tangled web they are weaving.

You are right, though. Our enemies are loving the division the Left is inciting. I'm just glad that chasm is opening up considerably to the Left of Center, and that so many on the moderate Left are either backing away from the edge or jumping the chasm before it gets too wide. When the Left is losing Bill Maher, you know the Overton window has lurched too far.

Thanks. Brad.
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Old 08-13-2024, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
Hi Tommy, I live across the state from you by Cape Canaveral.

My friends live all around the country and the world so I get a bunch of different perspectives. But just to be clear I am not talking fresh out of college, I am pretty sure I am close to your age from posts I have seen.

Republicans vote republican and democrats vote démocrate for the most part, its the middle that he needs to win over, or her.

To answer your questions, this is the type of things I see, again some are far left most far right, a lot in the middle.
  • Illegals, I do not know of one single person that agrees with that. It's insane. I kind of liked the stay in Mexico policy.
  • On inflation I see answers like.
    • when both administration pumped out billions in stimulus it was bound to happen.
    • It's a world wide issue.
    • Biden caused most of it.
    • Of course that is grocery prices as well.
    • Gas prices it's the typical on what side they lean what has caused it. Funny I have two friend's (one a Canadian that just got his US citizenship last year). They are about as far left as you can get, one says good on high gas everyone needs an electric car. the other doesn't like most electric cars.
Wildman,

Trillions.... The word you're looking for is "trillions". But "both administrations" didn't pump them out. The bills that were passed during Trump's administration were Democrat crafted, without input from Republicans, unanimously passed by Democrats, against strong opposition from Republicans, and laced with poison pills that Trump would have been crucified for vetoing. It was brilliant politicking on their part, but it was at the detriment of We, the People. We didn't have to forced people to stay home and write rubber checks to keep them from going under Sweden didn't do that. By a long shot. It's funny how often we hear the socialists hail Sweden as the ideal model for economic policy.... Until it would have made Trump look good. I mean, they had an election to win, right?

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Originally Posted by tommymonza
CNN just had a current poll that states Trump has more support than 2016 and 2020 .
Well that is something not like they would normally want to give good news to Trump.
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Old 08-13-2024, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
Hi Brad, I would agree with most of that except the one saying the left is the only side inciting. Not when I see the right saying the left is our enemy and trying to destroy OUR country.
If we lose we need a civil war, stuff like that. You should hear some of the local ads. To me they both need to stop that chit as you get unstable people fired up.

BTW for both you and Tommy, full disclosure I am a transplanted Midwestern, grew up just south of where Tommy grew up.
Wildman,

I'd suggest that the bulk of that is reflexive. We didn't start it. It wasn't us that started berating people at restaurant tables. It wasn't us that started riots that burned down cities. It wasn't us who reclassified "insurrection" to include overzealous rallies. We certainly aren't saints. But we didn't bring the bats and bricks to any of their otherwise peaceful demonstrations. Just sayin....

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Old 08-13-2024, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
Hi Tommy, I live across the state from you by Cape Canaveral.

My friends live all around the country and the world so I get a bunch of different perspectives. But just to be clear I am not talking fresh out of college, I am pretty sure I am close to your age from posts I have seen.

Republicans vote republican and democrats vote démocrate for the most part, its the middle that he needs to win over, or her.

To answer your questions, this is the type of things I see, again some are far left most far right, a lot in the middle.
  • Illegals, I do not know of one single person that agrees with that. It's insane. I kind of liked the stay in Mexico policy.
  • On inflation I see answers like.
    • when both administration pumped out billions in stimulus it was bound to happen.
    • It's a world wide issue.
    • Biden caused most of it.
    • Of course that is grocery prices as well.
    • Gas prices it's the typical on what side they lean what has caused it. Funny I have two friend's (one a Canadian that just got his US citizenship last year). They are about as far left as you can get, one says good on high gas everyone needs an electric car. the other doesn't like most electric cars.
Im 60 and we live in a Republican Utopia over her in Naples .

My dear English born friend from Australia lived with us for 4 months after he lost his cruising sailboat after the hurricane. We watch the Five every night and back then Tucker.
All he could say is it’s all rubbish and lies because the BBC was saying the same thing our MSM says that “Orange Man Bad”.

Later at night I would watch a few of the late night shows for his entertainment and I would mention the bias against Trump and how they wouldn’t have any material if they didn’t have him to constantly Rip.

And though he had no horse in the race his view was always Trump man bad, to be honest I was glad to see him ago after 4 months though I always enjoyed his company.
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I think an administration that intentionally brings in millions of illegals for nefarious reasons is and should be called out as an enemy. This is not a small difference of outlook.
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I think an administration that intentionally brings in millions of illegals for nefarious reasons is and should be called out as an enemy. This is not a small difference of outlook.

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