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10-10-2024, 01:33 PM
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Just out of curiosity here.....lets say he looses the election...and then all the court cases either get dropped or he wins them hands down.. and all the noise goes silent....what then? You still think at that point that the dems were NOT out to get him? And it was just the wheels of justice playing out properly??
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10-10-2024, 04:04 PM
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Just out of curiosity here.....lets say he looses the election...and then all the court cases either get dropped or he wins them hands down.. and all the noise goes silent....what then? You still think at that point that the dems were NOT out to get him? And it was just the wheels of justice playing out properly??
My opinion:
He has not won a single case yet.
NY cases/cooking the valuations whatever: political 100%. Its not right but I don't feel anyone got hurt in dealing with the over-valuations.
Sex stuff: He absolutely banged a porn star and paid her off. Lying about it got him in more trouble than actually doing it! The other case from 30+ years ago, he likely did it but without physical evidence it seems like a vindictive prosecution. Ok owes her 5mm but Dumb Dumb Donald starts ranting against her, filling the media with lies/ libel and gets hit with 83mm penalty?!?!?! Again he is his own worst enemy!
Jan 6th stuff- what he did is un-American. He lost (finally he admits this) but he amped up the crowds and absolutely encouraged them to take over the Capitol. F him, it was wrong and if he is found guilty he should go to jail.
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10-10-2024, 04:09 PM
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My opinion:
NY cases/cooking the valuations whatever: political 100%. Its not right but I don't feel anyone got hurt in dealing with the over-valuations.
Sex stuff: He absolutely banged a porn star and paid her off. Lying about it got him in more trouble than actually doing it! The other case from 30+ years ago, he likely did it but without physical evidence it seems like a vindictive prosecution. Ok owes her 5mm but Dumb Dumb Donald starts ranting against her, filling the media with lies/ libel and gets hit with 83mm penalty?!?!?! Again he is his own worst enemy!
Jan 6th stuff- what he did is un-American. He lost (finally he admits this) but he amped up the crowds and absolutely encouraged them to take over the Capitol. F him, it was wrong and if he is found guilty he should go to jail.
NY cases/cooking the valuations whatever: political 100%. Its not right but I don't feel anyone got hurt in dealing with the over-valuations.
Sex stuff: He absolutely banged a porn star and paid her off. Lying about it got him in more trouble than actually doing it! The other case from 30+ years ago, he likely did it but without physical evidence it seems like a vindictive prosecution. Ok owes her 5mm but Dumb Dumb Donald starts ranting against her, filling the media with lies/ libel and gets hit with 83mm penalty?!?!?! Again he is his own worst enemy!
Jan 6th stuff- what he did is un-American. He lost (finally he admits this) but he amped up the crowds and absolutely encouraged them to take over the Capitol. F him, it was wrong and if he is found guilty he should go to jail.
See? This is the “spin” I’m referring to. What, exactly, did Trump do or say that compelled anyone to anything that led to what happened? He told them to go peacefully to the Capitol and have their voices heard. He also told them all to go home after things got out of hand.
Thanks. Brad.
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10-10-2024, 04:10 PM
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10-10-2024, 04:12 PM
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Brad,
The Mad Tea Party Conservatives & The American Right
Richard Kim: How Glenn Beck & Co. trumped up a vast left-wing conspiracy: the "Cloward-Piven strategy."
Interesting thought process but totally wrong. The old Tea Bagger argument has been debunked. But you keep on living in your conspiracy world.
Thanks, Dave
The Mad Tea Party Conservatives & The American Right
Richard Kim: How Glenn Beck & Co. trumped up a vast left-wing conspiracy: the "Cloward-Piven strategy."
Interesting thought process but totally wrong. The old Tea Bagger argument has been debunked. But you keep on living in your conspiracy world.
Thanks, Dave
WTF are you talking about? The Cloward-Piven strategy is being implemented as we speak. Deliberately and blatantly.
Do you even know what it is?
Thanks. Brad.
10-10-2024, 04:12 PM
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Jupiter,
See? This is the “spin” I’m referring to. What, exactly, did Trump do or say that compelled anyone to anything that led to what happened? He told them to go peacefully to the Capitol and have their voices heard. He also told them all to go home after things got out of hand.
Thanks. Brad.
See? This is the “spin” I’m referring to. What, exactly, did Trump do or say that compelled anyone to anything that led to what happened? He told them to go peacefully to the Capitol and have their voices heard. He also told them all to go home after things got out of hand.
Thanks. Brad.
10-10-2024, 04:13 PM
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10-10-2024, 04:55 PM
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10-10-2024, 05:38 PM
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10-10-2024, 05:53 PM
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My comments are in BOLD
My opinion:
He has not won a single case yet.
True, but several have been thrown out.
NY cases/cooking the valuations whatever: political 100%. Its not right but I don't feel anyone got hurt in dealing with the over-valuations.
Commercial Real Estate is a complex business and for those not in it, it is very easy to misunderstand. ALL valuations for loans needed to be verified by banks through thier own due diligence. Assessments for tax purposes has absolutely zero to do with value. It is absolutely 100% political and they are weaponizing the judicial system with liberal DA's. I can assure you that trillions of dollars of real estate is "over valued" from an assessment basis. Should maybe the banks be held liable? Should the underwriters be held liable? Probably not as they are just as innocent as Trump on this issue.
Sex stuff: He absolutely banged a porn star and paid her off. Lying about it got him in more trouble than actually doing it! The other case from 30+ years ago, he likely did it but without physical evidence it seems like a vindictive prosecution. Ok owes her 5mm but Dumb Dumb Donald starts ranting against her, filling the media with lies/ libel and gets hit with 83mm penalty?!?!?! Again he is his own worst enemy!
Agree. Should have just come out and admitted it and it would have long been forgotten. Kind of like Kamala was the first Democrat to fall out of the 2020 Primaries as she was unfit and had horrible ideas for our country. She is black (kind of) and she is a woman so she was chosen to be VP, and she has been horrible. Please do not remeber Stormy without remembering the Kamala has been a complete failure.
Jan 6th stuff- what he did is un-American. He lost (finally he admits this) but he amped up the crowds and absolutely encouraged them to take over the Capitol. F him, it was wrong and if he is found guilty he should go to jail.
He did lose by the polls. Technically there was no cheating at the polls, but there was definitely cheating with the big social media platforms and network/cable news. It has been admitted to. Trump did ask Nancy Pelosi and the Mayor of DC to bring in the National Guard for security and they declined. Part of me thinks that they wanted there to be a riot for political purposes.
It is more un-democratic to support the President and say that he is in perfect health until he absolutely bombed the debate. With that, the DNC booted him not because he is is a horrible president, but because he was going to lose and they would lose power.
It is also pretty un-democratic with Hunter being on the gas board in Ukraine when he brought zero to the table, except for his dads ear. His dad even withheld money from Ukraine until they fired the prosecutor.
It was also pretty undemocratic to pull out of Afghanistan in a way that was a complete failure. We left people and billions in equipment behind.
It is really hard to pick and choose which issues to support and which to not. They may both be snakes, I don't know, but when I look at what each has actually accomplished in the real world, the choice is easy. Dont let emotions dictate a horrible decision.
He has not won a single case yet.
True, but several have been thrown out.
NY cases/cooking the valuations whatever: political 100%. Its not right but I don't feel anyone got hurt in dealing with the over-valuations.
Commercial Real Estate is a complex business and for those not in it, it is very easy to misunderstand. ALL valuations for loans needed to be verified by banks through thier own due diligence. Assessments for tax purposes has absolutely zero to do with value. It is absolutely 100% political and they are weaponizing the judicial system with liberal DA's. I can assure you that trillions of dollars of real estate is "over valued" from an assessment basis. Should maybe the banks be held liable? Should the underwriters be held liable? Probably not as they are just as innocent as Trump on this issue.
Sex stuff: He absolutely banged a porn star and paid her off. Lying about it got him in more trouble than actually doing it! The other case from 30+ years ago, he likely did it but without physical evidence it seems like a vindictive prosecution. Ok owes her 5mm but Dumb Dumb Donald starts ranting against her, filling the media with lies/ libel and gets hit with 83mm penalty?!?!?! Again he is his own worst enemy!
Agree. Should have just come out and admitted it and it would have long been forgotten. Kind of like Kamala was the first Democrat to fall out of the 2020 Primaries as she was unfit and had horrible ideas for our country. She is black (kind of) and she is a woman so she was chosen to be VP, and she has been horrible. Please do not remeber Stormy without remembering the Kamala has been a complete failure.
Jan 6th stuff- what he did is un-American. He lost (finally he admits this) but he amped up the crowds and absolutely encouraged them to take over the Capitol. F him, it was wrong and if he is found guilty he should go to jail.
He did lose by the polls. Technically there was no cheating at the polls, but there was definitely cheating with the big social media platforms and network/cable news. It has been admitted to. Trump did ask Nancy Pelosi and the Mayor of DC to bring in the National Guard for security and they declined. Part of me thinks that they wanted there to be a riot for political purposes.
It is more un-democratic to support the President and say that he is in perfect health until he absolutely bombed the debate. With that, the DNC booted him not because he is is a horrible president, but because he was going to lose and they would lose power.
It is also pretty un-democratic with Hunter being on the gas board in Ukraine when he brought zero to the table, except for his dads ear. His dad even withheld money from Ukraine until they fired the prosecutor.
It was also pretty undemocratic to pull out of Afghanistan in a way that was a complete failure. We left people and billions in equipment behind.
It is really hard to pick and choose which issues to support and which to not. They may both be snakes, I don't know, but when I look at what each has actually accomplished in the real world, the choice is easy. Dont let emotions dictate a horrible decision.
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