The NOTHING stated here is going to CHANGE ANYONE'S VOTE thread.
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Dave,
And you conveniently left out the part where any of that was a directive to enact the events of Jan6th. Words have meanings. And we don't get to twist them to our needs. But, for the record, we have video examples of political figures on both sides of the aisle using these same phrases, either in paraphrase of verbatim. Just. Stop.
Thanks. Brad.
And you conveniently left out the part where any of that was a directive to enact the events of Jan6th. Words have meanings. And we don't get to twist them to our needs. But, for the record, we have video examples of political figures on both sides of the aisle using these same phrases, either in paraphrase of verbatim. Just. Stop.
Thanks. Brad.
Serious condition, you should seek professional help.
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^^^^^ you should follow your own regurgitated advise.
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I can see your point but Dopey Donald valued Maralago for 739mm, Palm Beach County values it for appraisal at 49mm, taxes it based on 36mm. Why the big discrepancy? BECAUSE ITS DEED RESTRICTED HISTORICAL PROPERTY. Slight glitch there, no you can't modify it with town council approval, you can't knock it down and build new even though that could be a better use of the land. Remember he bought it for 6mm as a deteriorating mansion from the gilded age and couldn't afford to fix it/maintain it so he made it a club, genius idea AND it has made money over the years. The catch was in order to get the club approved he gave up future development rights. So that agreement limits what the property can be used for and crushes the future valuations as well. So to overstate it's value by 15 times the county value seems a little more than just slight over valuation.
Also consider his personal penthouse in NYC. He lied about the square footage! It is 11K sq ft yet he said it was 30,000? That's a pretty "huuuuugggge" lie which would triple the value of the property based on NYC sq footage rates. Hey if he said it was 13,000 because he counted the balconies and normally you don't then that could be argued but tripling it is fraud which is why he was found guilty. This is something that is absolutely verifiable by the building permits, the city property appraiser. In FL its literally public info that anyone can access with a few keystrokes. The bank believed his lie and gave him the loan based on his 30,000 ft condo that didn't exist.
If a guy lies about sex scandals and real estate deals...........What else is he lying about? He is a salesman that says whatever he needs to in order to get the deal done and has always tried to dodge the repercussions later. This time it didn't work out for him.
Also consider his personal penthouse in NYC. He lied about the square footage! It is 11K sq ft yet he said it was 30,000? That's a pretty "huuuuugggge" lie which would triple the value of the property based on NYC sq footage rates. Hey if he said it was 13,000 because he counted the balconies and normally you don't then that could be argued but tripling it is fraud which is why he was found guilty. This is something that is absolutely verifiable by the building permits, the city property appraiser. In FL its literally public info that anyone can access with a few keystrokes. The bank believed his lie and gave him the loan based on his 30,000 ft condo that didn't exist.
If a guy lies about sex scandals and real estate deals...........What else is he lying about? He is a salesman that says whatever he needs to in order to get the deal done and has always tried to dodge the repercussions later. This time it didn't work out for him.
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I guess when it comes to this issue, I look at it this way. He was able to buy a distressed property and add value to it by contributing time, vision, and resources. In fact this is how he has come by much of his wealth. Most politicians are able to pad thier net worth through insider stock trades and "selling" access to them selves. Which is more shameful? Which do we see as a real success? Can you outline some successes by either Harris or Walz that does not have anything to do with tax dollars? Can you outline some successes where either Harris or Walz has signed the front side of payroll checks? Can you share the success of Harris when she was running in the primary in 2020? Besides being a black woman, why would the DNC have chosen her over any of the candidates that did much, much better in the 2020 primaries?
Just about anybody that has "fought" in the private sector to build what he has probably has some skeletons in the closet. He has several, no doubt. Did his dad give him seed money> Absolutely! That said, many, many second or third generations have pi$$ed away everything handed to them, but he built on it. He built on it working his a$$ off in the private sector and has never relied on a government paycheck.
Now, if we are to really look at Trumps valuation of properties, lets take a look at the Biden and Clinton finances to see where their wealth was accumulated. Harris and Walz are riding the same bus.
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Except I don't and I don't. Facts are just facts. I can't help that they don't align with or satiate your entrenched, tribalistic dependencies.
Thanks. Brad.
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Clearly you believe in conspiracy's and are easily manipulated. Tell me the smartest in the room where you heard about the Cloward Piven strategy? And my next question is what you believe it tells you?
Thanks, Dave
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[QUOTE=Wally;4911224]Who cares if he lies about the value or size of his property!
I care laws were broken and both you and i would pay if something went sideways. Lets all do what trump does we will all be rich. You walk a slippery slope my friend with your simple views on basic law an order.
I care laws were broken and both you and i would pay if something went sideways. Lets all do what trump does we will all be rich. You walk a slippery slope my friend with your simple views on basic law an order.