The NOTHING stated here is going to CHANGE ANYONE'S VOTE thread.
Today, 06:28 AM
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trump got a laugh
Today, 06:43 AM
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The below information is pretty much aligned with I was told by the Danish military diplomat at the conference I attended:
Russian President Vladimir Putin didn’t invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be safe and easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia’s power, eradicate Ukraine’s statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.
Putin had convinced himself by the end of 2021 that Russia had the opportunity to safely launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine to accomplish two distinct goals: establish Russian control over Ukraine without facing significant Western resistance and break the unity of NATO. Putin has long sought to achieve these goals, but a series of events in 2019-2020 fueled Putin’s belief that he had both the need and a historic opportunity to establish control over Ukraine. Putin’s conviction resulted from the Kremlin’s failed efforts to force Ukraine to submit to Russia’s demands, Putin’s immersion in an ideological and self-reflective bubble during the COVID-19 pandemic, and Western responses to global events and Russian threats in 2021. Putin had decided that he wanted war to achieve his aims by late 2021, and no diplomatic offering from the West or Kyiv short of surrendering to his demands would have convinced Putin to abandon the historic opportunity he thought he had.
Russian President Vladimir Putin didn’t invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be safe and easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia’s power, eradicate Ukraine’s statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.
Putin had convinced himself by the end of 2021 that Russia had the opportunity to safely launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine to accomplish two distinct goals: establish Russian control over Ukraine without facing significant Western resistance and break the unity of NATO. Putin has long sought to achieve these goals, but a series of events in 2019-2020 fueled Putin’s belief that he had both the need and a historic opportunity to establish control over Ukraine. Putin’s conviction resulted from the Kremlin’s failed efforts to force Ukraine to submit to Russia’s demands, Putin’s immersion in an ideological and self-reflective bubble during the COVID-19 pandemic, and Western responses to global events and Russian threats in 2021. Putin had decided that he wanted war to achieve his aims by late 2021, and no diplomatic offering from the West or Kyiv short of surrendering to his demands would have convinced Putin to abandon the historic opportunity he thought he had.
putin came to realize the usa had a weak incompetent leader w/ a dei laughing stock of a military
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Today, 07:07 AM
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The below information is pretty much aligned with I was told by the Danish military diplomat at the conference I attended:
Russian President Vladimir Putin didn’t invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be safe and easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia’s power, eradicate Ukraine’s statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.
Putin had convinced himself by the end of 2021 that Russia had the opportunity to safely launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine to accomplish two distinct goals: establish Russian control over Ukraine without facing significant Western resistance and break the unity of NATO. Putin has long sought to achieve these goals, but a series of events in 2019-2020 fueled Putin’s belief that he had both the need and a historic opportunity to establish control over Ukraine. Putin’s conviction resulted from the Kremlin’s failed efforts to force Ukraine to submit to Russia’s demands, Putin’s immersion in an ideological and self-reflective bubble during the COVID-19 pandemic, and Western responses to global events and Russian threats in 2021. Putin had decided that he wanted war to achieve his aims by late 2021, and no diplomatic offering from the West or Kyiv short of surrendering to his demands would have convinced Putin to abandon the historic opportunity he thought he had.
Russian President Vladimir Putin didn’t invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be safe and easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia’s power, eradicate Ukraine’s statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.
Putin had convinced himself by the end of 2021 that Russia had the opportunity to safely launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine to accomplish two distinct goals: establish Russian control over Ukraine without facing significant Western resistance and break the unity of NATO. Putin has long sought to achieve these goals, but a series of events in 2019-2020 fueled Putin’s belief that he had both the need and a historic opportunity to establish control over Ukraine. Putin’s conviction resulted from the Kremlin’s failed efforts to force Ukraine to submit to Russia’s demands, Putin’s immersion in an ideological and self-reflective bubble during the COVID-19 pandemic, and Western responses to global events and Russian threats in 2021. Putin had decided that he wanted war to achieve his aims by late 2021, and no diplomatic offering from the West or Kyiv short of surrendering to his demands would have convinced Putin to abandon the historic opportunity he thought he had.
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Today, 07:18 AM
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No, The MAGA folks are just tired of bank rolling the rest of the world while our own citizens are kicked to the curb.
We are tired of watching our veterans, who shed their blood for the rest of the world live a substandard quality of life, because there isn't enough money in the budget to take care of them properly.
We are tired of our infrastructure decaying, because huge sums of money are being spent on foreign conflicts and not directed towards our problems.
We are tired of being labeled *Bad People* if we don’t turn out our pockets for every corrupt globalist scheme that comes down the pipeline.
We are tired of watching our veterans, who shed their blood for the rest of the world live a substandard quality of life, because there isn't enough money in the budget to take care of them properly.
We are tired of our infrastructure decaying, because huge sums of money are being spent on foreign conflicts and not directed towards our problems.
We are tired of being labeled *Bad People* if we don’t turn out our pockets for every corrupt globalist scheme that comes down the pipeline.
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Today, 07:36 AM
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Don't know about the rest of you men, I am past the point of all the bull chit. This world we live in, I never thought it could get so f'd up. All the values that the majority of us grew up with have been tossed to the wayside. As a father , I pray for my daughter , and for children that they totally f'd them up in the head. There is no fixing the broken system .... Get right with who you believe is your creator...it's only now a matter of time..............
Today, 08:40 AM
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*the governor of michigan used to work for george soros.
* calif gov. Gavin newsom is nancy pelosi's nephew
* adam shiff's sister is married to one of george soros’ sons.
* john kerry's daughter is married to a mullah's son in iran.
* hillary's daughter chelsea is married to george soros' nephew.
* abc news executive producer ian cameron is married to susan rice, obama's former national security adviser.
* cbs president david rhodes is the brother of ben rhodes, obama's deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.
* abc news correspondent claire shipman is married to jay carney, former obama white house press secretary.
* abc news and univision reporter matthew jaffe is married to katie hogan, obama's former deputy press secretary
* abc president ben sherwood is the brother of elizabeth sherwood, obama's former special adviser.
* cnn vp virginia moseley is married to tom nides, former hillary clinton's deputy secretary.
* calif gov. Gavin newsom is nancy pelosi's nephew
* adam shiff's sister is married to one of george soros’ sons.
* john kerry's daughter is married to a mullah's son in iran.
* hillary's daughter chelsea is married to george soros' nephew.
* abc news executive producer ian cameron is married to susan rice, obama's former national security adviser.
* cbs president david rhodes is the brother of ben rhodes, obama's deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.
* abc news correspondent claire shipman is married to jay carney, former obama white house press secretary.
* abc news and univision reporter matthew jaffe is married to katie hogan, obama's former deputy press secretary
* abc president ben sherwood is the brother of elizabeth sherwood, obama's former special adviser.
* cnn vp virginia moseley is married to tom nides, former hillary clinton's deputy secretary.
You really have to stop the cut and paste. Almost everything you state is an outright lie or a half truth. You voicing an opinion from false facts just make you look silly.
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