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Old Today, 03:33 PM
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And they generally don’t stick around for the ambulance or deputy after a car wreck if they can help it. FL has E verify now but I think companies with fewer than 25 employees are excluded so landscapers and contractors still use them I’d guess. The current fed administration must be rubber stamping work permits of some sort since throwing out the welcome mat.
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Have you read Project 2025?
I'm guessing that you have not.
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Project 2025 is in no way tied to Trump. He has refuted it many times and there is zero proof that he supports it. Now, on the other hand, Harris is tied directly to Black Lives Matter and she wants to govern to the ideals of that group. Her support of Black Lives Matter along with defunding the police is a HORRIBLE platform, especially with the influx of illegals.

Can either of you (VD or Jay) give me a convincing reason why a person should not be required to show a valid, government ID at the time of voting? Your candidate woudl like to do away with all ID's for voting purposes. The only two reasons that I can come up with is that they are stupid, don't care, corrupt, or any combination.

Explain to me the argument that tariffs will add to inflation as costs are passed to consumers, yet increasing corporate taxes will not? With tariffs, at least we protect the American worker. Higher taxes allows the government to steal more money from citizens to fund stupid initiatives.

How will Harris lower the price of food? I am very curious.

I gotta admit, it has been a LOOONG time since I read the constitution so can you please point out specifically where it says that the military cannot be used against citizens when they are in the process of attempting to overtake a city. Do you consider the National Guard as military?

Yes, violent protests need to end. Protests should always be protected, but when they turn violent is when they need reeled in to protect other citizens.

You are reaching deep with your BS about Elon Musk. After leaving the elevator trade did you become a Doctor? Do you have insight into his personal health records. Do you have any problem with Harris's past consumption of illegal, mind altering drugs?

It is really hard to hear what Harris has to say, as she uses allot of words to not say much at all. If you can translate it and tell me how she is going to combat the economy/inflation and national security/illegals, I'd sure appreciate it!

The fact that you really dont care, hoping that it gets to the point that he trashes the country shows exactly how many liberals think. As much as you hate Trump and love Harris, it sure seems like at some level you care. In the unlikely event that Harris wins, I do not hope for total failure.


Yes, Dave, I am betting on hitting 300 electoral votes.
Lol. MAGAs are stuuuupid! STUPID.

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Originally Posted by 36Tango
I just read 1/2 of it. No details at all. Instead of getting into details, they call out Trump on about every page. BS propaganda for those less fortunate to have intellect.

Haha you claim to have intellect. I don't know you personally but you don't strike me as being that smart. But that's ok i don't clam to be a genius. Maybe you could return the favor and show me what your candidate has said he will do on the issues, I looked and guess what i don't see a thing but the tired old rambling about all the bad people. If you don't kiss the butt of the orange man your bad. What a whiney party you are. Not a good look for a man. At least i hope your a man.
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Originally Posted by Hoodoo 2.0
And they generally don’t stick around for the ambulance or deputy after a car wreck if they can help it. FL has E verify now but I think companies with fewer than 25 employees are excluded so landscapers and contractors still use them I’d guess. The current fed administration must be rubber stamping work permits of some sort since throwing out the welcome mat.
Nope the amount of hit and runs down here is insane. Hell when you see on the news that someone stayed it's stunning.





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Originally Posted by Wally
yep...i just started reading the section on lowering costs.....they have no idea that the core issue is fuel/power for delivery. The cost of fuel/power goes up and everything goes along with it. No amount of laws passed for price gouging will lower the cost for anything!
Maybe their wind and solar supplied by China will help lower the costs... LOL
Another trumpie that believes the president of America can control oil costs. Sorry to disappoint but that's not how it works. Oil prices are in private hands they determine the price. If you could stop foaming at the mouth for a few minutes and actually use your common sense you could learn something. Instead it just is easier to be told the orange man can fix it in a day. What rubes.
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
Nope the amount of hit and runs down here is insane. Hell when you see on the news that someone stayed it's stunning.

My pickups are registered in Idaho in a commercial insurance policy and are pretty costly but my wife’s older Yukon and her new f150 along with the two boys modest cars are in FL and are right at 15k annually. No accidents and only one minor ticket between the three of them.
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
I know for a fact that may be true in your industry but when it comes to construction both residential and commercial, illegals are used, and by both Republican and democratic owned companies.

I was at a port security power plant during an outage when ICE came in and they lost about 30% of the work force, how they ever got through all the paperwork I have no idea. Took me almost 3 months to get my credentials to be on site un escorted.

Just a bit of info for you guys. The commercial guys like them because if they get hurt unless it's major they will not report it because they are afraid of getting deported. Therefore the company doesn't get a OSHA safety hit and it keeps them on the bidder list.
Say it is not so Americans encouraging illegals to work for them. My brother in law is a steamfitter he worked the crew that built Cove Creek LNG facility. It took him months to get in. You need special certs, background checks, wit card, in person skill test, piss test the works. They must have been some smart illegals to jump all those hoops.
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Lol. I'm stuuuupid! just plain ole STUPID.

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fixed for it for you
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