Hydrocruiser

What do you consider the best conventional oils?

bglz42

My favorite conventional oils are the HDEO's, either Shell Rotella T, Chevron Delo 400 or Mobil Delvac. Kendall's GT1 oils are also very strong, and have a loyal following.

Here's a shot of M1's VOA's, thanks to Butler...along with pages that contain Delo and Rotella. Look at the additive packages (Phos/Zinc/Calcium). The HDEO's are very strong. Delvac is the only one that uses a lot of magnesium. I've used Delvac a lot, and like it.

Hydrocruiser

Shell Rotella T HD looks great...as does Chevron Delo 400 and Mobil-1 Delvac. Lots of anti-wear and detergent additives and I am sure a good basestock.

Valvoline VR-1 40,50 or 60 wts are supposed to be good.

I agree that most Kendall products are strong.

Castrol HD 40wt is supposed to be good too.

I hear Quaker State 20W-50 Peak Performance has a good chemistry

Exxon 20W-50 is used a lot..I don't have much info on it but it sells for $1.59/qt.

I called about 20 dealers across the country a few months back. Most have a 55 gallon drum of a 30wt or maybe a
40 wt. and then another drum with a 15W-40 diesel motor oil.
Many use garden variety average filters.

Anything else is in bottles and you pay a hefty upcharge for. About 1/2 the offshore guys use synthetics and the other half a 30 or 40 wt.

One dealer uses only RP unless the customer requests something else. RP has a nice additive balance and good ZDDP from the new tests we now have.

It's interesting in that some oil changes are costing customers at marinas around $75-150/engine. Total cost of materials might be $10.00. I am in the wrong business.

vandy021

Not to be a stickler. Mobil 1 is the PVL product. There is no shuch think as Mobil-1 Delvac. Mobil Delvac 1 is the CVL synthetic equivalent. Delvac 1300 Super 15w40 is the conventional. Exxon XD-3 Elite 15w40 is the synthetic blend. XD-3 Extra is a conventional like Delvac 1300 and XD-3 is like Chevron RPM 400 or Citgard. Then they have their straight weights. Then they have their locomotive diesel engine oils. Anything else I need to clear up? Oh yeah and the mag levels I am waiting for a call back from my CVL rep. Since some of you are wanting to learn some things. Here are some of the standards

Delvac 1 5w40: Meet latest US....

API CI-4Plus/SL, Cat ECF-1, Cummins CES20078/20077/20076, Det. Diesel Power Guard Oil Specification, Mack EO-N Premium Plus '03

Global OEM:
ACEA E5/E4, JASO DH-1, MB228.5, Volvo VDS-3/VDS-2

Delvac 1300 Meets all the same except for the MB228.5 it's MB228.3


If you want the rest of them. Go to www.exxonmobil.com or our site www.genpet.com to get to exxonmobil.

Regards,

Vandy

vandy021

Hydro, Read up!

vandy021

And here is the MSDS

Hydrocruiser

Exxon 20W-50 Superflow is available at a Big Lot Stores as informed by a member via e-mail.

He gets it in one gallon containers for $2.99 from Big Lots.

Most places sell it for $1.59/qt or less.

From what I can see it has a lot of ZDDP and holds it's Cst's at 100 *C very well.

You have to rate it as a real good conventional 20w-50.

I read the spec sheet Craig...it's comparable to Kendall 20W-50 I do believe.

I have to give this the best and cheapest 20W-50 conventional oil award.

vandy021

18.1 if you need to be precise. It's pour point isn't that bad either for a heavy motor oil. You are better off with the Mobil 1'sthat pour -49 degrees or more. The 0w's pump at -65 degrees F. Not like it really matters at that temp.

Hydrocruiser

Hey Craig for just one week I was asked to pretend synthetic oils don't exist and to focus on only conventionals....



What is Mobil-1?

vandy021

ok.... just make sure you doing call Delvac 1.... Mobil-1 Delvac. If you want my .50 on conventional. The new Mobil line up is a joke and will probably be changed come November.