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Old 06-11-2009, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
How about an update!


What oil and filter are you using these days?

What engines?
Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 + MI-302 filter, 600hp gen4 BBC

Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-140, Bravo 1 (modified)

Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 + seadoo filter, Seadoo RXP

Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 + Canam filter, CanAm outlander xt 800R

what did you expect?

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Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
I would have liked to been a fly on the wall when they did the test.

FYI..Penzoil Platinum is used by a lot of guys on Bob's site with excellent results and it's offered in a 15W-50. I do not know how much ZDDP is in it. So probably send in a test sample and if it's at or over 1200 ppm...like M-1 15W-50 SilverCap...you are good to go.
Is the difference between M1 15-50 silver cap and gold cap worth the price difference in a marine engine/change intervals (~600hp BBC)?
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Originally Posted by Wobble
Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 + MI-302 filter, 600hp gen4 BBC

Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-140, Bravo 1 (modified)

Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 + seadoo filter, Seadoo RXP

Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 + Canam filter, CanAm outlander xt 800R

what did you expect?
We have a believer!
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Old 06-11-2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rage
Is the difference between M1 15-50 silver cap and gold cap worth the price difference in a marine engine/change intervals (~600hp BBC)?
Silver Cap is great!

I am not even sure why they introduced Gold... anyways as it is about the same as Silver Cap which is about the same as the old Red Cap.
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I stopped by my local speed shop and they carry ZDDP liquid oil additive. I was thinking of adding it to M1 V-twin for my new JC Perf engine. (dyno time only). Their website has some good info. From the website I figure 1/2 oz per quart added to M1 v-twin 20-50 would bring the ZDDP up to 2750 ppm. What do you guys think? Hydro? Doug

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Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
Silver Cap is great!

I am not even sure why they introduced Gold... anyways as it is about the same as Silver Cap which is about the same as the old Red Cap.
Marketing...
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Originally Posted by outriggers
I stopped by my local speed shop and they carry ZDDP liquid oil additive. I was thinking of adding it to M1 V-twin for my new JC Perf engine. (dyno time only). Their website has some good info. From the website I figure 1/2 oz per quart added to M1 v-twin 20-50 would bring the ZDDP up to 2750 ppm. What do you guys think? Hydro? Doug
I'd run whatever JC suggests as he knows what tolerances he designed into the motor
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Originally Posted by outriggers
I stopped by my local speed shop and they carry ZDDP liquid oil additive. I was thinking of adding it to M1 V-twin for my new JC Perf engine. (dyno time only). Their website has some good info. From the website I figure 1/2 oz per quart added to M1 v-twin 20-50 would bring the ZDDP up to 2750 ppm. What do you guys think? Hydro? Doug
Waste of money.

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[QUOTE=minxguy;2894081]Waste of money.


You have to give me more than that. It seems ZDDP is a factor in the quality of the oil. Are you saying there is already enough in the off the shelf oils? http://www.cam-shield.com/index.html Doug
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Originally Posted by outriggers
I stopped by my local speed shop and they carry ZDDP liquid oil additive. I was thinking of adding it to M1 V-twin for my new JC Perf engine. (dyno time only). Their website has some good info. From the website I figure 1/2 oz per quart added to M1 v-twin 20-50 would bring the ZDDP up to 2750 ppm. What do you guys think? Hydro? Doug
Yeah, I agree with the above statement. It seems like a marketing scam to me, just like Slick 50 and all the others. If the oil manufacturers wanted more ZDDP in that particular oil, they would have put it in there. After multimillions of dollars figuring out the proper chemical makeup of the oil, it is what it is. My personal opinion, nothing should be added to ANY OIL!
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