Marine Lubrication
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by SeaRay Jim
Hydro,
I didn't realize until recently that Amsoil has a 20w-50 Racing oil. I was using 15w-40 in a 7.4 MPI but so far, the 1st 48 hours of the 540's life has had Valvoline 50w Racing. I don't think I want to run the 15w-40 Amsoil, but the 20w-50 might be do the trick. Their 60w Racing wouldn't be the best choice with it either. I don't think I've ever sen the 20w-50 Racing come up in discussions.
What are your thoughts on the Amsoil 20w-50 Racing? Or anyone for that matter.
I didn't realize until recently that Amsoil has a 20w-50 Racing oil. I was using 15w-40 in a 7.4 MPI but so far, the 1st 48 hours of the 540's life has had Valvoline 50w Racing. I don't think I want to run the 15w-40 Amsoil, but the 20w-50 might be do the trick. Their 60w Racing wouldn't be the best choice with it either. I don't think I've ever sen the 20w-50 Racing come up in discussions.
What are your thoughts on the Amsoil 20w-50 Racing? Or anyone for that matter.
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by SeaRay Jim
Hydro,
I didn't realize until recently that Amsoil has a 20w-50 Racing oil. I was using 15w-40 in a 7.4 MPI but so far, the 1st 48 hours of the 540's life has had Valvoline 50w Racing. I don't think I want to run the 15w-40 Amsoil, but the 20w-50 might be do the trick. Their 60w Racing wouldn't be the best choice with it either. I don't think I've ever sen the 20w-50 Racing come up in discussions.
What are your thoughts on the Amsoil 20w-50 Racing? Or anyone for that matter.
I didn't realize until recently that Amsoil has a 20w-50 Racing oil. I was using 15w-40 in a 7.4 MPI but so far, the 1st 48 hours of the 540's life has had Valvoline 50w Racing. I don't think I want to run the 15w-40 Amsoil, but the 20w-50 might be do the trick. Their 60w Racing wouldn't be the best choice with it either. I don't think I've ever sen the 20w-50 Racing come up in discussions.
What are your thoughts on the Amsoil 20w-50 Racing? Or anyone for that matter.
15W-40 Marine Amsoil is fine in a 7.4 stock engine by the way.
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 11-11-2005 at 07:20 PM.
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by minxguy
When someone says "racing" in a lubricant application don't get too excited. A "racing" lubricant usually has less additive content because the product isn't used for long periods of tome. The oil is usually changed after a race and when the new oil is poured in so isn't a whole new slug of additives. Not the best use for a boater, (unless you are racing). As I have stated on this thread before, a motorcycle oil contains a higher slug of additives, ( especially the anti-wear ones) than auto product. Try Spectro Golden 4 motorcycle in a 20w50 viscosity for your boat. It will stay in grade, provide extremely high levels of anti-wear and detergency, and most important, won't disappoint. Ken
Amsoil Severe Service Racing has all the good additives and detergents....and it can be used for a normal service period.
Most motorcycle oils are able to offer more phosphorous (ZDD"P") as motorcycles do not have cataylic converters that can be plugged up by this great anti-wear pressure additive.
Some automotive oils have reduced levels of ZDDP because of this. FYI M-1 EP Synthetics have good doses of ZDDP.
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 11-11-2005 at 10:24 PM.
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
"Racing" can mean a low detergent oil for less chance of detonation that is used for "one race". That is very true of some conventional oils and Redline.
Amsoil Severe Service Racing has all the good additives and detergents....and it can be used for a normal service period.
Most motorcycle oils are able to offer more phosphorous (ZDD"P") as motorcycles do not have cataylic converters that can be plugged up by this great anti-wear pressure additive.
Some automotive oils have reduced levels of ZDDP because of this. FYI M-1 EP Synthetics have good doses of ZDDP.
Amsoil Severe Service Racing has all the good additives and detergents....and it can be used for a normal service period.
Most motorcycle oils are able to offer more phosphorous (ZDD"P") as motorcycles do not have cataylic converters that can be plugged up by this great anti-wear pressure additive.
Some automotive oils have reduced levels of ZDDP because of this. FYI M-1 EP Synthetics have good doses of ZDDP.
What are the pros and cons of M1 V-Twin versus M1 EP in a marine engine?
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Originally Posted by Rage
Hydrocruiser,
What are the pros and cons of M1 V-Twin versus M1 EP in a marine engine?
What are the pros and cons of M1 V-Twin versus M1 EP in a marine engine?
The M-1 EP 15W-50 has a great base and great ZDDP levels and excellent detergency as well. It is well suited to most offshore applications and many here use it and have great results to share. I have found it going for about $5.45/qt.
If you race or like spending a lot of time at WOT; have hopped up mills or want the MOST protection available.. then move up to a Premium Synthetic like M-1 20W-50 V-Twin as it has even a tougher base and more anti-wear additives with a beefed up detergency chemistry to match. I have bought it for as little as $7.00/qt.
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 11-12-2005 at 02:33 PM.
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
"Racing" can mean a low detergent oil for less chance of detonation that is used for "one race". That is very true of some conventional oils and Redline.
Amsoil Severe Service Racing has all the good additives and detergents....and it can be used for a normal service period.
Most motorcycle oils are able to offer more phosphorous (ZDD"P") as motorcycles do not have cataylic converters that can be plugged up by this great anti-wear pressure additive.
Some automotive oils have reduced levels of ZDDP because of this. FYI M-1 EP Synthetics have good doses of ZDDP.
Amsoil Severe Service Racing has all the good additives and detergents....and it can be used for a normal service period.
Most motorcycle oils are able to offer more phosphorous (ZDD"P") as motorcycles do not have cataylic converters that can be plugged up by this great anti-wear pressure additive.
Some automotive oils have reduced levels of ZDDP because of this. FYI M-1 EP Synthetics have good doses of ZDDP.
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
It is not a matter of pros and cons but rather a matter of matching one of these fine oils to your specific application.
The M-1 EP 15W-50 has a great base and great ZDDP levels and excellent detergency as well. It is well suited to most offshore applications and many here use it and have great results to share. I have found it going for about $5.45/qt.
If you race or like spending a lot of time at WOT; have hopped up mills or want the MOST protection available.. then move up to a Premium Synthetic like M-1 20W-50 V-Twin as it has even a tougher base and more anti-wear additives with a beefed up detergency chemistry to match. I have bought it for as little as $7.00/qt.
The M-1 EP 15W-50 has a great base and great ZDDP levels and excellent detergency as well. It is well suited to most offshore applications and many here use it and have great results to share. I have found it going for about $5.45/qt.
If you race or like spending a lot of time at WOT; have hopped up mills or want the MOST protection available.. then move up to a Premium Synthetic like M-1 20W-50 V-Twin as it has even a tougher base and more anti-wear additives with a beefed up detergency chemistry to match. I have bought it for as little as $7.00/qt.
Do you loose any rpms going from the Mercury 25W40 to the M-1 V-Twin 20W50 with fully warmed engine?
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I was asked what might be a better choice than 10W-30 M-1 in C-6 Corvette engine?
Well I do think that 10W-30 Mobil-1 is a good choice especially if you change frequently anyways....
If you want:
-Boosted levels of anti-wear additives
-Faster flow to critical engine parts
-Helps protect supercharged, turbocharged, and high revving engines.
Try this along with a M-1 oil filter:
Well I do think that 10W-30 Mobil-1 is a good choice especially if you change frequently anyways....
If you want:
-Boosted levels of anti-wear additives
-Faster flow to critical engine parts
-Helps protect supercharged, turbocharged, and high revving engines.
Try this along with a M-1 oil filter:
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 11-14-2005 at 04:27 PM.
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Re: Marine Lubrication
Originally Posted by Rage
Hydrocruiser,
Do you loose any rpms going from the Mercury 25W40 to the M-1 V-Twin 20W50 with fully warmed engine?
Do you loose any rpms going from the Mercury 25W40 to the M-1 V-Twin 20W50 with fully warmed engine?