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Old 10-20-2005, 07:29 PM
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well i just got some of the motor spec's from my motor builder was wondering if you guys can let me know what you think and if it was worth it (50,000 for both, 25000 ea.). most of this doesn't make sence to me so bear with me.
started with 2
454 HO gen 6 motors
work done
machine and honed blocK and surfaces
machine heads

Rods - stock but with H-beams

crank - steel (drilled and balanced)

Heads - GM cast iron rectangle port

Pistons - JE 106903 flat top

Compression - 8 to 1

Valves - Manley
in.- 2.19"
ex. - 1.90"

Cam - Lunati roller 54847
duration in. - 218 degrees
duration ex. - 226 degrees
lift in. - .534
lift ex. - .544
lobe center in. - 108 degrees
lobe center ex. - 116 degrees
seperation 112 degrees

Intake - edelbrook performance rpm 2R

Procharger - M3 SC

Distributor - DUI / HEI mech advance

rev limiter - DUI

plugs - ac delco

wires - 8mm DUI

fuel pumps - procharger A-1000 aeromotive
fuel reguator - procharger

carbs - Holley 4 barrel duel pumper 800 cfm (don't work right)
92 jets pri/ 103 sec / .130 needle and seats
foam floats, removed chokes,
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50k for them?????

I really hope you kidding. Are they dynoed???? Warranty????

Looks like a lotta cash for what you have listed.
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That is alot of cash for those motors, I would think they would be worth about 12k a piece wih the pro chargers tops. And what exactley is a stock connecting rod with H beams ? unless you meant stock legnth H Beam rods, that would make sense.
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sounds very high for the work and parts mentioned !!!!!! I hope that theres more to it for 25000 each even with r&r 15 k maybe
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First Yes Hillybilly Your Right It Was Stock Length H Beam Rods
Second There Was Other Work Included But I Still Think It Was Very High. The Actual Motor Building, Parts, Prochargers And Assembly 36000.00 For 2 (i Know The He Charged Me 5700.00 Ea Just To Buy Procharger Set Ups)
50000.00 Included All The Above Plus Parts And Labor
Removing Motors From Boat W/ My Help
Installing Motors In Boat
All New Raw Water Plumbing To Motors Because We Had To Move Fresh Water Coolers, Oil Cooler, Transmission Cooler, To Side Walls To Make Room For Procharger Set Up.
All New Fresh Water Lines To Motors
All New Fuel Lines
New Fuel / Water Separators
New Raw Water Pumps
All New Belts
Boost Gages And Installation
Fuel Pressure Gages And Installation
New High Volume Oil Coolers
All New Fluids
Reworking Carbs, (still Not Right)
I Still Think It Was Ridiculous But Its Done
But Back To The Original Thread Do The Spec.s Look Good Or Do They Look Like Something I Could Have Bought Off The Shelf For 5500 Each Plus The Price Of A Procharger Set Up
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You could get much more power for much less installed from other sources. Do your homework and comparison shop, 50k is a lot for what you've mentioned.
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I just did a quick math job in my head. You can duplicate or even improve upon what you got for about $10K each, plus say $5000 for the labor and other things.
I say it`s way too high !
Did he at least kiss you afterwards ?
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That almost looks like the same spec's of the 454HO GM crate motor. They are using GM steel crank and JE piston but with 9:1 Compression in the 502 I am sure it is the same in the 454. The long blocks run about 4500 EA from GM!!??
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Originally Posted by electrical1
well i just got some of the motor spec's from my motor builder was wondering if you guys can let me know what you think and if it was worth it (50,000 for both, 25000 ea.).
$50,000 seems like an aweful lot of money for what you have there. Here's a labor/pricing sheet of a local, very reputable machine shop in my area that has been in business for about 20 years or so. This price sheet lists cost of all the machining operations in detail. All labor is based on a $60 per hour labor rate and they have "state of the art" equipment.

They do a lot of edurance engines, and they know what it takes to properly machine an engine destined for the hi-perf offshore marine environment---without any hype. Compare it to what you have paid for, the parts you have, and then ask yourself if you think you may have paid too much.

I will post the labor sheet in two segments in hopes that it is legible. Just click on either one and it will enlarge it for you.
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