anyone DIY 540 build up?
12-26-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by formula31
Go back to school.
12-27-2005, 04:27 AM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1
I understand.. The thing you have to watch out for with the Eagle stuff is alot of the journals will vary in size . Oil clearence setting is important to check on both rods and mains. I deal with this stuff daily from the best of components to the lower end more affordable ones. When machined properly the stuff will lasy along time.
I like to hear what other people are doing that works, any combos you like please post. Seems everybody in this area is into big blowers, and buying lots of drives, It would be good to get some fresh ideas, thats what got me working on this. Finding the cheapest, hopefully realible combo.
Kaama, glad to hear you got all things working good.
Eagle is what most people use around here, They seem to hang even with big blowers and lots of boost. I like the JE pistons better, but found that if you loosen up the SRP, add at least .0015-.002 extra clearance, get the pins up to .001, they seem to hang as well.
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12-29-2005, 12:49 PM
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I don't know how Dynoflow does it . All the blocks come from Dart need alot of machine work, Try buying the parts and assembling it it would cost double. It cost me a fortune to buy a GM Bowtie block, have it align honed, decked, bored .250, clearanced for stroker, and have the mains, and oil passages drilled for better flow. And then buy a crank , rods, pistons, etc. and have balanced etc. Just for a short block. Would have been way better off With a Dart block. It would have cost me less. The Dynoflow short block costs about half of what mine cost. Never ran motor, But it is in the 650-675 horse range, with dart heads... 
If you go with the eagle rods, specify the L 19 bolts..... BBB
If you go with the eagle rods, specify the L 19 bolts..... BBB
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12-29-2005, 12:55 PM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Merlin makes a tall deck intake with a bronze passage. It is similar to the Dart victor. You can get one from Summit
part # WRL-63043 only $314.95 . I've bought a few they are real nice pieces, and the flanges and everything else checked out square. Dar't dropped the ball on this one by not offering a true marine manifold.
part # WRL-63043 only $314.95 . I've bought a few they are real nice pieces, and the flanges and everything else checked out square. Dar't dropped the ball on this one by not offering a true marine manifold.
07-01-2006, 02:36 PM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by Big Block Billy
Merlin makes a tall deck intake with a bronze passage. It is similar to the Dart victor. You can get one from Summit
part # WRL-63043 only $314.95 . I've bought a few they are real nice pieces, and the flanges and everything else checked out square. Dar't dropped the ball on this one by not offering a true marine manifold.
part # WRL-63043 only $314.95 . I've bought a few they are real nice pieces, and the flanges and everything else checked out square. Dar't dropped the ball on this one by not offering a true marine manifold.
07-02-2006, 05:54 AM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1
I understand.. The thing you have to watch out for with the Eagle stuff is alot of the journals will vary in size . Oil clearence setting is important to check on both rods and mains. I deal with this stuff daily from the best of components to the lower end more affordable ones. When machined properly the stuff will lasy along time.
Has anyone else had issues with Dart Iron Eagles? One of mine cracked in half and Dart replaced all four with Pro1 aluminum castings. They said it was a problem with some of the earlier iron castings in the marine environment and colder water. Still cost me 1/2 season and almost $10,000 with one puked engine and the other engine head swap. Only had 12 hours on the engines at the time.
07-02-2006, 10:54 AM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by checkmate454mag
Here is my 540 combination. I built it last winter. It ran flawlessly this season.
Dart Big "M" Block
Callies dragon slayer crank
Lunati Pro Mod rods 6.385"
JE Pistons 9.23 final compression
A.F.R. 315 cnc heads, Ferrea 2.25 intakes, 1.88 inconel exhaust
Dart single plane oval port intake, gasket matched to heads
Isky hydraulic roller
intake .578 lift--- 238* @ .050
exhaust .608 lift---248* @ .050
114* lobe seperation
Nickerson prepped 1050 dominator
Wilson tapered 1" spacer plate
CMI Full Dry Headers
Here are the dyno numbers
RPM Horsepower Torque
3300 381 607
3400 394 609
3500 407 610
3600 416 608
3700 427 606
3800 438 606
3900 450 606
4000 464 610
4100 479 613
4200 503 629
4300 518 633
4400 539 643
4500 558 651
4600 575 657
4700 590 660
4800 603 659
4900 616 661
5000 627 658
5100 638 657
5200 648 654
5300 657 651
5400 665 646
5500 670 639
5600 672 630
5700 674 621
5800 678 613
5900 679 608
Dart Big "M" Block
Callies dragon slayer crank
Lunati Pro Mod rods 6.385"
JE Pistons 9.23 final compression
A.F.R. 315 cnc heads, Ferrea 2.25 intakes, 1.88 inconel exhaust
Dart single plane oval port intake, gasket matched to heads
Isky hydraulic roller
intake .578 lift--- 238* @ .050
exhaust .608 lift---248* @ .050
114* lobe seperation
Nickerson prepped 1050 dominator
Wilson tapered 1" spacer plate
CMI Full Dry Headers
Here are the dyno numbers
RPM Horsepower Torque
3300 381 607
3400 394 609
3500 407 610
3600 416 608
3700 427 606
3800 438 606
3900 450 606
4000 464 610
4100 479 613
4200 503 629
4300 518 633
4400 539 643
4500 558 651
4600 575 657
4700 590 660
4800 603 659
4900 616 661
5000 627 658
5100 638 657
5200 648 654
5300 657 651
5400 665 646
5500 670 639
5600 672 630
5700 674 621
5800 678 613
5900 679 608
HOW BIG IS YOUR OIL COOLER MY COMBO IS KIND OF LIKE YOURS, AT WHERE IS YOUR OIL TEMP AT
07-02-2006, 01:11 PM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
My oil temps are about 180* with this set-up. The cooler is Hardins 620-550 with their thermistatic head. All lines are -12 AN
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07-02-2006, 03:33 PM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by Hang Time 27
Here's one of Merlins tall deck intake for dominator with bronze passages = $315
That probably would not be the case if dart was making them ! BBB
07-02-2006, 05:55 PM
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Re: anyone DIY 540 build up?
Originally Posted by Big Block Billy
Lee from LAB engine discovered that the bronze inserts don't completely cover the water passages. He showed me the intake and where the aluminum was starting to corrode !
That probably would not be the case if dart was making them ! BBB
That probably would not be the case if dart was making them ! BBB
Just another reason why I like closed cooling..
