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Old 10-23-2006, 10:57 AM
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RE: Baja 232 w 454 Mag MPI

Just got the boat back from the shop. The engine got a valve job and new maniforlds.

First time out on the water, it started up great, idled perfectly and ran really smooth. Started building speed, and a 2800rpm, got an alarm. Killed engine, reset alarm and went back out to try again.

This time no alarm, but full throttle was now only 3000rpm. Throttled back and then up and upped full throttle to 4000rpm. Never did get above 4000rpm's even though the engine ran perfectly, no unusual sounds or vibration.

Mechannic scanned engine and indicated a knock sensor alarm had occured. Cleared alarm condition and said to try again. Same result (4000rpm) occured.

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Did you double check the timing?
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Mechanic checked knock sensor, throttle linkage and used timing light to confirm timing. Said all appeared OK and to try running again. Same thing occured .....

Most interesting part, the engine felt much smoother and even more powerful than prior to this service. The only problem seems to be max RPM at WOT.

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Default Re: 454 Mag MPI ran great ..... but only to 4000rpm

Could the symptoms indicate a fuel flow issue?
<< fuel filter, fuel pump or problem gas>>
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I would try fuel filter, my engine was doing the same thing this summer at about 4100rpms it felt like it was cutting out .
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Default Re: 454 Mag MPI ran great ..... but only to 4000rpm

Mine did the exact same thing last week after I replaced the head and manifold gasket.. I set the timing at Top Dead Center (opps).. Ran great, sounded fine.. Just would not run over 3000rpm. The moment it would not get up on I realized my mistake and advanced the timing by hand till she ran 4900/5000rpm. – I’ll hit it with a light next spring.

But double check what was removed or replaced. Timing, Spark plug wires.. Why did you replace the manifold? Did you upgrade in performance?
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Default Re: 454 Mag MPI ran great ..... but only to 4000rpm

Originally Posted by masi242
I would try fuel filter, my engine was doing the same thing this summer at about 4100rpms it felt like it was cutting out .
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Didn't feel rough, missing or like cutting out at all.
Simply felt like full throttle was now at 4000rpm.
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Check your fuel pressure at the rail. My Scorpion is doing the exact same thing and only has 20psi at the rail and I am told it should be 43 psi. Waiting on fuel pump to get her.
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Mine did the exact same thing last week after I replaced the head and manifold gasket.. I set the timing at Top Dead Center (opps).. Ran great, sounded fine.. Just would not run over 3000rpm. The moment it would not get up on I realized my mistake and advanced the timing by hand till she ran 4900/5000rpm. – I’ll hit it with a light next spring.

But double check what was removed or replaced. Timing, Spark plug wires.. Why did you replace the manifold? Did you upgrade in performance?
My mechanic wants me to bring the boat over to his shop in the water this week to work on this problem. I assume this is to be able to test his adjustments. Should the timing be adjusted while under way with a "load" on the engine?

BTW .... Replaced maniforld with stock Mercruiser due to leak.
No upgrade involved.

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Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV
Check your fuel pressure at the rail. My Scorpion is doing the exact same thing and only has 20psi at the rail and I am told it should be 43 psi. Waiting on fuel pump to get her.
Will check the fuel filter and pump (pressure) this week.
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