engine builder says gear drine
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engine builder says gear drine
should i be putting a milodon gear drive in my gen 6 572, that is what the engine builder is telling me he wants the timing to be precise.............or is he looking in the wrong direction
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Tell your engine builder "Jessel belt drive" if he wants precision.
If you want to stay with a chain you will want the Cloyes Tru-roller. Go to the website and check them out. Great product, great warranty
If you want to stay with a chain you will want the Cloyes Tru-roller. Go to the website and check them out. Great product, great warranty
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nosig,
Personally, I have used a few gear drives at customers request, several Jesel belt drives on drag race engines, and a LOT of good old reliable Cloyes True Roller chain sets. I have never had any of them fail. I cannot speak to the "harmonic" issues with gear drives either.
That being said ... you have to be able to trust your engine builder. If he is going to stand behind his product, you really need to do what he wants to do. If he prefers gear drives, and has had good success with them, then let him do his part of the job the way he wants to do it. If you cannot trust his decisions, you probably should be using another builder, or doing it your self. I know this sounds harsh, but it is a fact of life.
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Bill Koustenis
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Personally, I have used a few gear drives at customers request, several Jesel belt drives on drag race engines, and a LOT of good old reliable Cloyes True Roller chain sets. I have never had any of them fail. I cannot speak to the "harmonic" issues with gear drives either.
That being said ... you have to be able to trust your engine builder. If he is going to stand behind his product, you really need to do what he wants to do. If he prefers gear drives, and has had good success with them, then let him do his part of the job the way he wants to do it. If you cannot trust his decisions, you probably should be using another builder, or doing it your self. I know this sounds harsh, but it is a fact of life.
Just my opinion,
Bill Koustenis
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The problem with gear drives is they impart an opposing load on the cam and crank... Simple terms.... the crank and cam are pushed away from each other... A chain pulls the two together. The oil port on the camshaft is on the "bottom" where the load is for a chain. I've only heard anecdotal theories about "harmonics" being transmitted through the gears. I think Jesel belt drives are cool... They allow you to change timing without having to remove the damper and cover, but I wouldn't run one other than on a dyno for a short time to determine what cam timing works best for your application. Those belts are tiny compared to gilmer cogged drive belts on overhead cam engines. Even those belts have a short life and they're opening tiny valves by comparison. Go with a good roller chain. Early ford engines had gears... but only two... and one of them had a damper built into the gear to take out the harshness. The engines were designed to have the camshaft turn in the opposite direction of the crank and the gear faces were helical cut for less shock and noise.
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Thanks guys, i trust the guy but i also like to due my own research.........The harmonic theroy i have heard before and undue stress on camshaft............I guess i will due what he says, he wont let me buy anything but the milidon gear drive and it is more exspensive than any chain and a little less than the jesel...............BACK UP AND PUNT I GUESS............
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Originally Posted by GPM
What is the lifespan of that belt, what do the valves and pistons look like when it breaks ?