Power Steering Fluid foaming
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Power Steering Fluid foaming
I have a full power hydraulic steering system. It has a single ram, GM ps pump with a charlynn (sp) helm for a twin Arneson set up. I am using ATF for power steering fluid.
PS fluid foams up after running at cruise power for about 5 to 10 minutes. You can feel it in the helm and hear it too. It always steers fine but is very noisey at the wheel every time wheel is moved. Everything is fine when cold (no noise). PS fluid is perfect when cold, total pink foam after it is warmed up. PS fluid return line runes through oil cooler then to tank. The base of helm will get very warm steering alot in big water, but you can still put you hand on it.
Question: Is it ok to use something other than ATF that would not foam up? If so what would it be? This has been a chronic problem for quite awhile, just finally getting around to doing something about it.
Thanks in advance,
Steve H
PS fluid foams up after running at cruise power for about 5 to 10 minutes. You can feel it in the helm and hear it too. It always steers fine but is very noisey at the wheel every time wheel is moved. Everything is fine when cold (no noise). PS fluid is perfect when cold, total pink foam after it is warmed up. PS fluid return line runes through oil cooler then to tank. The base of helm will get very warm steering alot in big water, but you can still put you hand on it.
Question: Is it ok to use something other than ATF that would not foam up? If so what would it be? This has been a chronic problem for quite awhile, just finally getting around to doing something about it.
Thanks in advance,
Steve H
Last edited by Steve H; 10-22-2007 at 01:52 PM.
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It sounds like something needs attention in the steering system, but I'm a huge fan of Redline Power Steering Fluid. Made a huge difference in my road race cars that required use of stock PS system with NO cooler allowed. Even stopped the dreaded GM PS whine.
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Sean Does return run to the pump? Generally the return runs to the low port on pump and the resevior tank attaches to welded fitting on top of pump. That allows all the air to escape to resivior and keeps pump full. I would think it doesn't have enough fluid in the system.
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Sean the only time i've ever boiled or foamed my PS oil was when my lower pulley was too big?You don't have a motor mounted pump though.Use a full synthetic,it won't be damaged by heat.
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Sean Does return run to the pump? Generally the return runs to the low port on pump and the resevior tank attaches to welded fitting on top of pump. That allows all the air to escape to resivior and keeps pump full. I would think it doesn't have enough fluid in the system.
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Are you suggesting that a remote mounted tank would take care of my problem? Is so how big should tank be?
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I ran my power steering pump low/ dry one time and after I re- filled it I too had foaming issues .Must have burned up . I have had great luck with Lucas oil power steering pump fluid. Guaranteed to fix bad / leaking pumps. Foamed before , put in Lucas and fixed problem. The guy at NAPA said mechanics say this stuff works great.
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Latham and others make reservoir tanks, capacity is about 2 quarts. The cap on pump gets sealed or brazed with a #6 fitting. It may be possible to get a stock pump to work if you can bleed all the air out. A little air will expand with temp and lead to foaming. All good steering systems have res tanks to allow for expansion and extreme use.
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I'm with Mobilemercman.
The stock reservoir on the pump is not big enough for a full hydraulic system. I'll bet your fluid is expanding and leaking from the pump cap. Then it runs low and gets air in the system.
Imco sells a sealed cap with a fitting to attach to a remote reservoir. They're about $50, cheap fix.
Gary
The stock reservoir on the pump is not big enough for a full hydraulic system. I'll bet your fluid is expanding and leaking from the pump cap. Then it runs low and gets air in the system.
Imco sells a sealed cap with a fitting to attach to a remote reservoir. They're about $50, cheap fix.
Gary
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Adequate breather with a large (dash 10 hose minimum) feeding the pumps with no 90 degree fittings on the feed side.
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trouble with PS as well. where is air coming from/why?
I am experiencing similiar trouble, my fluid keeps collecting in the resiviuor making the steering go hard. It must be foaming and collecting in the Latham bottle. I have dual ps Latham system per thier diagram. Changing the pump did not change the problem.
thanks for advice.
thanks for advice.
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